From: Robert Niestroj <ODPOWIADAJACUSUNTOrniestroj go2.pl.invalid>
Subject: Re: F1 GP =?ISO-8859-2?Q?W=B3och?=
It was the 2007-09-09 15:57, when Marcin Narzynski wrote :
> Niestety, wypada napisać - "jak zwykle". Jak zwykle coś nie zagrało w
> boksie BMW. Za karę proponuję wykonanie 100 zmian serwisowych dla
> poprawy jakości pracy mechaników.
I 100 podjazdów na miejsce w boksie dla Kubicy. To był jego błąd. Zdarza
się.
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From: "santee" <santee ducksaredumb.com>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_F1_GP_W=B3och?=
Użytkownik "Tomek Kańka" <tom tomkan.eu.org> napisał w wiadomości
news:slrnfeb7br.ec2.tom tomkan.eu.org...
> Żartujesz, jeśli po takim "dotknięciu" koło zostało uszkodzone, to ten
> samochód nie miał czego szukać na Monzy, gdzie bolidy fruwają na
> niektórych szykanach kilkadziesiąt cm nad asfaltem.
Tak to wyglada
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/795/startqb6.jpg
> Zresztą przy takim zderzeniu, jeśli musimy komuś przypisac winę, to winy
> jest kierowca z tyłu. To on musi się dostosowć do tego co robi ten z
> przodu.
Zauwaz, gdzie jest prawe kolo Ferrari - daleko na poboczu
From: Tomek =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=F1ka?= <tom tomkan.eu.org>
Subject: Re: F1 GP =?iso-8859-2?Q?W=B3och?=
santee <santee ducksaredumb.com> napisał(a)
>
> Użytkownik "Tomek Kańka" <tom tomkan.eu.org> napisał w wiadomości
> news:slrnfeb7br.ec2.tom tomkan.eu.org...
>> Żartujesz, jeśli po takim "dotknięciu" koło zostało uszkodzone, to ten
>> samochód nie miał czego szukać na Monzy, gdzie bolidy fruwają na
>> niektórych szykanach kilkadziesiąt cm nad asfaltem.
>
> Tak to wyglada
>
> http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/795/startqb6.jpg
>
>> Zresztą przy takim zderzeniu, jeśli musimy komuś przypisac winę, to winy
>> jest kierowca z tyłu. To on musi się dostosowć do tego co robi ten z
>> przodu.
>
> Zauwaz, gdzie jest prawe kolo Ferrari - daleko na poboczu
>
Na wszelki wypadek, obejrzałem jeszcze raz. Prawe koło Massy, ani przez
chwilę nie jest na poboczu. Jedzie po biało-czerwonym, ale znacznie
płyciej niż np. jadący przed nim Alonso.
--
Tomek Kańka
From: "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Stary_wy=B6cig_F1_w_Monaco_-_dojecha=B3o_tylko_3_?=
Witam,
Pamiętam, że dawno temu oglądałem wyścig F1 Monaco, który ukończyło tylko 3
zawodników (lub 6 - nie pamiętam już dokładnie). Było to jakieś 10 lat temu.
Czy ktoś pamięta, w którym roku odbył się ten wyścig? Czy gdzieś może ktoś
odkrył w internecie archiwum co ciekawszych wyścigów?
MN
From: Tomek =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ka=F1ka?= <tom tomkan.eu.org>
Subject: Re: Stary =?iso-8859-2?Q?wy=B6cig?= F1 w Monaco -
Marcin Narzynski <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl> napisał(a)
> Witam,
>
> Pamiętam, że dawno temu oglądałem wyścig F1 Monaco, który ukończyło tylko 3
> zawodników (lub 6 - nie pamiętam już dokładnie). Było to jakieś 10 lat temu.
> Czy ktoś pamięta, w którym roku odbył się ten wyścig? Czy gdzieś może ktoś
> odkrył w internecie archiwum co ciekawszych wyścigów?
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Monaco_Grand_Prix
ukończyło 4.
--
Tomek Kańka
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Top Speed Comparison #13 - Monza
These comparisons only use the top speeds recorded through the regular speed
trap during the Saturday Qualifying sessions. This means that, at most events,
there are comparisons that are fairly meaningless because of some problem that
affected one or more drivers during one particular session.
The first table compares the 2006 team/driver combination with the equivalent
2007 team/driver - the same driver if possible, otherwise the 2006 driver is
compared to his 2007 replacement. This analysis is intended as a team comparison,
but the first table is also of some interest - but should be read with caution.
Italian GP - 2006-07
2006 2007
Team-Engine Driver km/h Team-Engine Driver km/h Dif. %Diff.
====================================================================================
S Aguri-Honda Yamamoto 332.8 S Aguri-Honda Davidson 341.4 +8.6 +2.58
Toyota Trulli 339.5 Toyota Trulli 347.7 +8.2 +2.42
S Aguri-Honda Sato 334.1 S Aguri-Honda Sato 341.3 +7.2 +2.16
McLaren-Mercedes Räikkönen 339.5 McLaren-Mercedes Alonso 346.7 +7.2 +2.12
McLaren-Mercedes de la Rosa 340.0 McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton 345.0 +5.0 +1.47
Ferrari M Schumacher 341.8 Ferrari Räikkönen 346.0 +4.2 +1.23
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 344.7 BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 348.8 +4.1 +1.19
T Rosso-Cosworth Liuzzi 338.2 T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi 342.2 +4.0 +1.18
Renault Alonso 343.8 Renault Kovalainen 347.1 +3.3 +0.96
Honda Barrichello 335.6 Honda Barrichello 338.6 +3.0 +0.89
Honda Button 336.6 Honda Button 338.0 +1.4 +0.42
Williams-Cosworth Webber 337.3 Williams-Toyota Wurz 338.5 +1.2 +0.36
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 348.4 BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 349.6 +1.2 +0.34
Renault Fisichella 346.2 Renault Fisichella 347.3 +1.1 +0.32
Ferrari Massa 345.9 Ferrari Massa 346.2 +0.3 +0.09
Midland-Toyota Albers 339.9 Spyker-Ferrari Yamamoto 340.0 +0.1 +0.03
T Rosso-Cosworth Speed 345.1 T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel 344.7 -0.4 -0.12
Toyota R Schumacher 341.6 Toyota Schumacher 340.8 -0.8 -0.23
Williams-Cosworth Rosberg 341.3 Williams-Toyota Rosberg 340.1 -1.2 -0.35
Midland-Toyota Monteiro 339.9 Spyker-Ferrari Sutil 338.3 -1.6 -0.47
Red Bull-Ferrari Coulthard 342.7 Red Bull-Renault Coulthard 340.0 -2.7 -0.79
Red Bull-Ferrari Klien 344.2 Red Bull-Renault Webber 340.5 -3.7 -1.07
The second table compares the best speed achieved by each team (IE both drivers),
and, as such, is a better
measure of the year-on-year change.
2006 2007
Team-Engine km/h Team-Engine km/h Diff. %Diff.
==================================================================
1. S Aguri-Honda 334.1 S Aguri-Honda 341.3 +7.2 +2.16
2. McLaren-Mercedes 340.0 McLaren-Mercedes 346.7 +6.7 +1.97
3. Toyota 341.6 Toyota 347.7 +6.1 +1.78
4. Honda 336.6 Honda 338.6 +2.0 +0.59
5. BMW Sauber-BMW 348.4 BMW Sauber-BMW 349.6 +1.2 +0.34
6. Renault 346.2 Renault 347.3 +1.1 +0.32
7. Ferrari 345.9 Ferrari 346.2 +0.3 +0.09
8. Midland-Toyota 339.9 Spyker-Ferrari 340.0 +0.1 +0.03
9. T Rosso-Cosworth 345.1 T Rosso-Ferrari 344.7 -0.4 -0.12
10. Williams-Cosworth 341.3 Williams-Toyota 340.1 -1.2 -0.35
11. Red Bull-Ferrari 344.2 Red Bull-Renault 340.5 -3.7 -1.07
2007 speed trap data from:
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2007/782/6435/speed_trap.html
The second table ranks the eleven teams in order of the largest increase in
top speed, with Super Aguri making the biggest advance at Monza, and Red Bull
the smallest. (At some events some teams have failed to better their top speed
from 2006.
Here are the rankings at each 2007 event to date together with the average
ranking for the season to date.
1 2 3 ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR ITA Avge.
===========================================================================
1. Super Aguri-Honda 2 1 1 1 10 2 9 2 2 1 9 1 1 3.23 +
2. T Rosso-Ferrari 4 2 4 5 3 8 2 6 1 3 1 8 9 4.31 -
3. Williams-Toyota 8 6 2 4 5 6 4 1 4 6 2 2 10 4.62 -
4. Red Bull-Renault 6 9 3 3 9 1 1 3 5 2 7 9 11 5.31 -
5. McLaren-Mercedes 10 10 9 6 2 5 11 8 3 7 4 3 2 6.15 +
6. Toyota 5 4 5 8 7 9 6 7 8 8 5 6 3 6.23 +
7. Spyker-Ferrari 1 8 10 2 6 6 4 9 6 5 10 7 8 6.31 -
8. Honda 7 7 8 7 4 11 3 5 7 4 11 5 4 6.38 +
9. BMW Sauber-BMW 11 11 7 9 1 3 10 4 9 9 6 4 5 6.85 +
10. Renault 9 5 11 10 8 4 7 10 9 11 3 10 6 7.92 +
11. Ferrari 3 3 6 11 11 10 8 11 11 10 8 11 7 8.46 +
Note: Toro Rosso, Williams, Red Bull & Spyker have all changed engine supplier
since 2006.
The + or - indicates a gain or loss in average since the last GP. A gain is a
fall in average and a loss is an increase - obviously :-)
There have been some events where two teams were equal (to two decimals of
percentage difference) and have been ranked equally (BMW and Renault at
Silverstone is an example).
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Engine Usage #13 - Monza
Engine Usage So Far - after Italian GP
E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2007
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2007
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2007
NENGP - New Engine at Next GP
FCNGP - Free engine Change at Next GP (possible)
Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier is halfway
through a two-race cycle.
C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg. Next
==================================================================
4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault RS27 7 6,255 894 NENGP
3 G Fisichella Renault RS27 7 6,212 [887]
9 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/7 7 6,122 [875]
10 Robert Kubica BMW P86/7 7 6,009 [858]
12 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-07 7 5,921 [846]
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108T 7 5,786 [827]
1 Fernando Alonso Mercedes FO108T 7 5,697 [814]
16 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-07 7 5,527 802 NENGP
6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 056 7 5,535 [791]
17 Alex Wurz Toyota RVX-07 7 5,191 [742]
11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota RVX-07 7 5,183 [740]
22 Takuma Sato Honda RA807E 7 5,013 716 NENGP
15 Mark Webber Renault RS27 7 4,886 [698]
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 7 4,650 664 NENGP
14 David Coulthard Renault RS27 7 4,442 635 NENGP
18 Vitantonio Liuzzi Ferrari 056 7 4,113 588 NENGP
19 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 056 7 3,869 [553]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
8 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA807E 8 5,713 714 NENGP
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 8 5,550 [694] FCNGP
7 Jenson Button Honda RA807E 8 5,052 632 NENGP
23 Anthony Davidson Honda RA807E 8 5,036 630 NENGP
21 Sakon Yamamoto Ferrari 056 8 4,357 [545]
------------------------------------------------------------------
159 116,119 [731]
Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
==================================================
Renault Renault RS27 14 12,467 [891]
BMW Sauber BMW P86/7 14 12,131 [867]
McLaren Mercedes FO108T 14 11,483 [820]
Toyota Toyota RVX-07 14 11,104 [793]
Williams Toyota RVX-07 14 10,718 [772]
Red Bull Renault RS27 14 9,328 [666]
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 14 7,982 [570]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Ferrari Ferrari 056 15 11,085 [739]
Super Aguri Honda RA807E 15 10,049 670
Spyker Ferrari 056 15 9,007 [600]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Honda Honda RA807E 16 10,765 673
--------------------------------------------------
159 116,119 [731]
Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
============================================================
BMW P86/7 14 12,131 [867] BMW Sauber
Mercedes FO108T 14 11,483 [820] McLaren
Toyota RVX-07 28 21,822 [783] Toyota, Williams
Renault RS27 28 21,795 [778] Renault, Red Bull
Honda RA807E 31 20,814 671 Honda, Super Aguri
Ferrari 056 44 28,074 [638] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Spyker
------------------------------------------------------------
159 116,119 [731]
Enforced Engine Changes (Incurring 10-place penalty)
====================================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
01 AUS Ferrari 056 5 Ferrari F Massa After Qual
01 AUS Ferrari 056 21 Spyker C Albers Race day
02 MAS Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello Race day
06 CDN Renault RS27 4 Renault H Kovalainen Before Qual
08 FRA Ferrari 056 20 Spyker A Sutil After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 7 Honda J Button After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello After Qual
Number of enforced changes
==========================
Ferrari 3
Honda 3
Renault 1
BMW 0
Mercedes 0
Toyota 0
--------------
7
Free Engine Changes (No penalty)
================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
02 MAS Renault RS27 14 Red Bull D Coulthard Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 9 Honda J Button Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 22 S Aguri T Sato Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA897E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
08 FRA Toyota RVX-07 16 Williams N Rosberg Pre-event
08 FRA Ferrari 056 18 Toro Rosso V Liuzzi Pre-event
09 GBR Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
10 Eur Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
Number of free changes
======================
Honda 5
Renault 1
Ferrari 1
Toyota 1
BMW 0
Mercedes 0
--------------
8
All engine usage data from www.forix.autosport.com
What was the situation after 13 events in 2006?
2006 2007
=================================
Engines used 179 159
Total km. 135,483 116,119 [1]
Average km. 757 731 [1]
Enforced changes 26 5
"Free" changes 22 8
1. The reason for the reduction in distance covered is because the FIA
no longer count Friday practice as part of the event for engines.
Teams now use different engines on Friday and swap to the "race"
engines for Saturday/Sunday.
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Driver Rankings #12 - After Istanbul Park
Numbers in brackets [] in second column indicate table positions before
adding the most recent GP (IE the change in table position).
GPs - number of GPs counted for each driver (from the last 100)
(-1) (+1), etc. - number of races deleted or added to driver's record
since the last event
PP - number of Pole Positions (in the last 100)
W - number of wins (in the last 100)
FL - number of Fastest Laps (in the last 100)
Points - these are my points, allocated for many & various things, not
just wins, poles, f.laps, etc.
[Change] - the change in points as a result of the most recent race
** - current drivers
The Last 100 GPs (~5 years)
===========================
First race (GP #1) - Australian GP, 03 March 2002
Last race (GP #100) - Turkish GP, 26 August 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
===================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 82 16 18 10 5565.03 [-20.61] **
2 Michael Schumacher 88 (-1) 25 38 32 5140.86 [-133.10]
3 Kimi Räikkönen 99 13 12 24 4588.27 [+32.74] **
4 Felipe Massa 81 (+1) 8 5 6 3348.43 [+227.49] **
5 Rubens Barrichello 98 10 8 12 2456.92 [-41.07] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 97 2 3 1 2148.79 [-12.35] **
7 Juan Pablo Montoya 74 (-1) 10 6 9 1951.59 [-55.10]
8 Jenson Button 95 3 1 - 1936.43 [-13.18] **
9 Ralf Schumacher 91 4 3 2 1612.95 [-15.49] **
10 [11] Lewis Hamilton 12 (+1) 4 3 1 1582.17 [+57.96] **
11 [10] Jarno Trulli 98 2 1 - 1555.01 [-7.82] **
12 Nick Heidfeld 94 1 - - 1529.28 [+24.12] **
13 David Coulthard 99 - 2 1 1343.30 [-8.26] **
14 Mark Webber 98 (+1) - - - 1124.61 [-16.83] **
15 Takuma Sato 78 (+1) - - - 931.17 [+7.33] **
16 Jacques Villeneuve 64 (-1) - - - 610.30 [-14.28]
17 Christijan Albers 45 - - - 610.01 [-8.26]
18 Christian Klien 46 - - - 561.92 [-9.48]
19 Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 537.34 [-7.90]
20 Nico Rosberg 30 (+1) - - 1 528.09 [+29.50] **
21 Robert Kubica 16 (+1) - - - 511.15 [+24.70] **
22 Vitantonio Liuzzi 34 (+1) - - - 490.40 [+18.49] **
23 Scott Speed 28 - - - 403.37 [-4.85]
24 Heikki Kovalainen 12 (+1) - - - 370.70 [+38.29] **
25 Alexander Wurz 13 (+1) - - - 346.91 [+20.93] **
26 Pedro de la Rosa 26 (-1) - - 1 290.92 [-6.24]
27 Olivier Panis 49 (-1) - - - 250.08 [-9.35]
28 Narain Karthikeyan 19 - - - 236.61 [-3.87]
29 Anthony Davidson 15 (+1) - - - 226.33 [+21.93] **
30 Cristiano da Matta 27 - - - 182.64 [-5.99]
31 [32] Adrian Sutil 12 (+1) - - - 182.63 [+21.47] **
32 [31] Robert Doornbos 11 - - - 168.02 [-2.30]
33 Antonio Pizzonia 20 - - - 155.18 [-3.83]
34 Zsolt Baumgartner 20 - - - 151.43 [-3.62]
35 Gianmaria Bruni 18 - - - 120.88 [-2.82]
36 [39] Sakon Yamamoto 9 (+1) - - - 107.73 [+23.05] **
37 [36] Patrick Friesacher 11 - - - 100.18 [-1.74]
38 [37] Heinz-Harald Frentzen 26 (-1) - - - 95.78 [-5.58]
39 [38] Giorgio Pantano 14 - - - 84.16 [-2.09]
40 [44] Sebastian Vettel 3 (+1) - - - 76.52 [+23.77] **
41 [40] Jos Verstappen 16 (-1) - - - 71.85 [-3.02]
42 [41] Franck Montagny 7 - - - 70.16 [-0.90]
43 [42] Justin Wilson 16 - - - 64.15 [-2.45]
44 [43] Ralph Firman 14 - - - 59.18 [-2.36]
45 Timo Glock 4 - - - 48.71 [-1.03]
46 Ricardo Zonta 5 - - - 44.62 [-0.92]
47 Yuji Ide 4 - - - 41.21 [-0.57]
48 [49] Nicholas Kiesa 5 - - - 35.09 [-1.14]
49 [51] Marc Gené 3 - - - 34.43 [-0.92]
50 [48] Eddie Irvine 17 (-1) - - - 33.51 [-3.71]
51 [50] Mika Salo 17 - - - 32.29 [-3.70]
52 Alan McNish 16 - - - 21.09 [-2.45]
53 Alex Yoong 11 (-1) - - - 14.45 [-2.09]
54 Markus Winkelhock 1 - - - 12.61 [-0.13]
55 Enrique Bernoldi 10 (-1) - - - 8.42 [-1.41]
Fifty five drivers have driven in the last 100 GPs. Since the last report
three drivers have dropped off the bottom of the list - Mika Häkkinen,
Tomas Enge and Jean Alesi.
The last 156 weeks (3 years)
============================
First race (GP #1) - Belgian GP, 29 August 2004
Last race (GP #53) - Turkish GP, 26 August 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 53 13 17 9 5067.46 [-32.80] **
2 Kimi Räikkönen 53 10 11 19 4017.52 [+53.57] **
3 [4] Felipe Massa 52 8 5 6 3212.11 [+230.14] **
4 [3] Michael Schumacher 42 (-1) 6 9 11 2985.92 [-215.42]
5 Giancarlo Fisichella 52 2 2 1 1879.56 [-14.81] **
6 [7] Lewis Hamilton 12 (+1) 4 3 1 1582.17 [+57.96] **
7 [6] Rubens Barrichello 54 3 2 2 1480.89 [-48.56] **
8 Jenson Button 50 2 1 - 1460.04 [-16.75] **
9 [10] Nick Heidfeld 48 1 - - 1293.35 [+23.93] **
10 [9] Juan Pablo Montoya 30 (-1) 2 4 2 1248.00 [-43.22]
11 Ralf Schumacher 51 (+1) 1 - 1 1166.97 [+8.02] **
12 Jarno Trulli 52 1 - - 1112.30 [+2.81] **
13 David Coulthard 53 - - - 948.54 [+0.66] **
14 Mark Webber 53 - - - 879.55 [-18.01] **
15 Takuma Sato 47 - - - 735.57 [-3.88] **
16 Christijan Albers 45 - - - 610.01 [-8.26]
17 Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 537.34 [-7.90]
18 [19] Nico Rosberg 30 (+1) - - 1 528.09 [+29.50] **
19 [18] Jacques Villeneuve 33 - - - 512.07 [-7.84]
20 Robert Kubica 16 (+1) - - - 511.15 [+24.70] **
21 [22] Vitantonio Liuzzi 34 (+1) - - - 490.40 [+18.49] **
24 Heikki Kovalainen 12 (+1) - - - 370.70 [+38.29] **
25 Alexander Wurz 13 (+1) - - - 346.91 [+20.93] **
28 Anthony Davidson 13 (+1) - - - 223.27 [+22.16] **
29 [30] Adrian Sutil 12 (+1) - - - 182.63 [+21.47] **
31 [33] Sakon Yamamoto 9 (+1) - - - 107.73 [+23.05] **
34 [36] Sebastian Vettel 3 (+1) - - - 76.52 [+23.77] **
Forty three drivers have driven in the last three years (156 weeks).
The last 104 weeks (2 years)
============================
First race (GP #1) - Italian GP, 04 September 2005
Last race (GP #35) - Turkish GP, 26 August 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 35 9 11 7 3899.01 [-38.04] **
2 [3] Felipe Massa 34 8 5 6 2950.68 [+231.45] **
3 [2] Kimi Räikkönen 35 5 5 12 2687.56 [-114.69] **
4 Michael Schumacher 23 (-1) 4 7 7 2138.66 [-34.72]
5 Lewis Hamilton 12 (+1) 4 3 1 1582.17 [+57.96] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 34 1 1 - 1401.76 [-43.30] **
7 Jenson Button 35 1 1 - 1057.17 [-18.47] **
8 Nick Heidfeld 30 - - - 942.87 [+33.99] **
9 Ralf Schumacher 35 1 - 1 809.49 [-1.38] **
10 Rubens Barrichello 35 - - - 780.56 [-0.73] **
11 Juan Pablo Montoya 15 (-1) 2 2 - 688.46 [-67.42]
12 Jarno Trulli 35 - - - 664.57 [-9.78] **
13 David Coulthard 35 - - - 662.09 [-5.97] **
14 Mark Webber 35 - - - 608.66 [-7.59] **
15 Takuma Sato 33 - - - 529.71 [+2.32] **
16 Nico Rosberg 30 (+1) - - 1 528.09 [+29.50] **
17 Robert Kubica 16 (+1) - - - 511.15 [+24.70] **
18 Christijan Albers 31 (-1) - - - 450.86 [-16.18]
19 Vitantonio Liuzzi 30 (+1) - - - 450.45 [+19.20] **
20 Scott Speed 28 - - - 403.37 [-4.85]
21 [22] Heikki Kovalainen 12 (+1) - - - 370.70 [+38.29] **
23 [25] Alexander Wurz 12 (+1) - - - 313.53 [+21.54] **
27 Anthony Davidson 12 (+1) - - - 221.57 [+22.19] **
28 Adrian Sutil 12 (+1) - - - 182.63 [+21.47] **
30 [31] Sakon Yamamoto 9 (+1) - - - 107.73 [+23.05] **
31 [34] Sebastian Vettel 3 (+1) - - - 76.52 [+23.77] **
Thirty six drivers have appeared in the last two years (104 weeks).
The last 52 weeks (1 year)
==========================
First race (GP #1) - Turkish GP, 27 August 2006
Last race (GP #17) - Turkish GP, 26 August 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Felipe Massa 16 8 5 4 2238.23 [+174.09] **
2 Fernando Alonso 17 2 4 4 1813.29 [+5.32] **
3 Kimi Räikkönen 17 3 3 6 1625.84 [+6.56] **
4 Lewis Hamilton 12 (+1) 4 3 1 1582.17 [+57.96] **
5 Nick Heidfeld 17 - - - 658.94 [-6.72] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 16 - - - 582.95 [+12.65] **
7 Michael Schumacher 5 (-1) - 2 2 525.73 [-30.33]
8 [9] Robert Kubica 16 (+1) - - - 511.15 [+24.70] **
9 [8] Jenson Button 17 - - - 421.37 [-99.88] **
10 Rubens Barrichello 17 - - - 391.09 [-22.34] **
11 [14] Heikki Kovalainen 12 (+1) - - - 370.70 [+38.29] **
12 [11] Jarno Trulli 17 - - - 347.75 [+1.40] **
13 [16] Nico Rosberg 17 - - - 340.37 [+26.05] **
14 [13] Ralf Schumacher 17 - - - 330.21 [-12.55] **
15 [12] David Coulthard 17 - - - 327.77 [-16.65] **
16 [15] Mark Webber 17 - - - 316.79 [-0.55] **
17 Takuma Sato 16 - - - 315.81 [+1.78] **
18 Alexander Wurz 12 (+1) - - - 313.53 [+21.54] **
19 [21] Vitantonio Liuzzi 17 - - - 245.39 [+14.76] **
20 [23] Anthony Davidson 12 (+1) - - - 221.57 [+22.19] **
23 [24] Adrian Sutil 12 (+1) - - - 182.63 [+21.47] **
25 [26] Sakon Yamamoto 7 - - - 103.16 [+20.88] **
26 [28] Sebastian Vettel 3 (+1) - - - 76.52 [+23.77] **
Thirty drivers have appeared in the last year (52 weeks).
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From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: Driver Rankings #13 - After Monza
Numbers in brackets [] in second column indicate table positions before
adding the most recent GP (IE the change in table position).
GPs - number of GPs counted for each driver (from the last 100)
(-1) (+1), etc. - number of races deleted or added to driver's record
since the last event
PP - number of Pole Positions (in the last 100)
W - number of wins (in the last 100)
FL - number of Fastest Laps (in the last 100)
Points - these are my points, allocated for many & various things, not
just wins, poles, f.laps, etc.
[Change] - the change in points as a result of the most recent race
** - current drivers
The Last 100 GPs (~5 years)
===========================
First race (GP #1) - Malaysian GP, 17 March 2002
Last race (GP #100) - Italian GP, 09 September 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
===================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 83 (+1) 17 19 11 5826.95 [+261.92] **
2 Michael Schumacher 87 (-1) 25 37 32 5010.25 [-130.61]
3 Kimi Räikkönen 99 13 12 23 4577.85 [-10.42] **
4 Felipe Massa 81 8 5 6 3309.69 [-38.74] **
5 Rubens Barrichello 98 9 8 12 2416.19 [-40.73] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 97 2 3 1 2135.96 [-12.83] **
7 [8] Jenson Button 95 3 1 - 1928.83 [-7.60] **
8 [7] Juan Pablo Montoya 73 (-1) 10 6 9 1897.60 [-53.99]
9 [10] Lewis Hamilton 13 (+1) 4 3 1 1675.56 [+93.39] **
10 [9] Ralf Schumacher 91 4 3 2 1597.71 [-15.24] **
11 [12] Nick Heidfeld 94 1 - - 1552.97 [+23.69] **
12 [11] Jarno Trulli 98 2 1 - 1547.37 [-7.64] **
13 David Coulthard 99 - 2 1 1313.77 [-29.53] **
14 Mark Webber 98 - - - 1126.93 [+2.32] **
15 Takuma Sato 78 - - - 938.09 [+6.92] **
16 [17] Christijan Albers 45 - - - 601.75 [-8.26]
17 [16] Jacques Villeneuve 63 (-1) - - - 596.24 [-14.06]
18 [20] Nico Rosberg 31 (+1) - - 1 562.46 [+34.37] **
19 [18] Christian Klien 46 - - - 552.45 [-9.47]
20 [21] Robert Kubica 17 (+1) - - - 551.46 [+40.31] **
21 [19] Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 529.43 [-7.91]
22 Vitantonio Liuzzi 35 (+1) - - - 508.49 [+18.09] **
23 [24] Heikki Kovalainen 13 (+1) - - - 401.95 [+31.25] **
24 [23] Scott Speed 28 - - - 398.52 [-4.85]
25 Alexander Wurz 14 (+1) - - - 367.14 [+20.23] **
26 Pedro de la Rosa 25 (-1) - - 1 284.84 [-6.08]
27 [29] Anthony Davidson 16 (+1) - - - 247.86 [+21.53] **
28 [27] Olivier Panis 48 (-1) - - - 240.96 [-9.12]
29 [28] Narain Karthikeyan 19 - - - 232.74 [-3.87]
30 [31] Adrian Sutil 13 (+1) - - - 204.84 [+22.21] **
31 [30] Cristiano da Matta 27 - - - 176.66 [-5.98]
32 Robert Doornbos 11 - - - 165.72 [-2.30]
33 Antonio Pizzonia 20 - - - 151.35 [-3.83]
34 Zsolt Baumgartner 20 - - - 147.80 [-3.63]
35 [36] Sakon Yamamoto 10 (+1) - - - 130.67 [+22.94] **
36 [35] Gianmaria Bruni 18 - - - 118.06 [-2.82]
37 [40] Sebastian Vettel 4 (+1) - - - 99.88 [+23.36] **
38 [37] Patrick Friesacher 11 - - - 98.44 [-1.74]
39 [38] H-Harald Frentzen 26 - - - 90.42 [-5.36]
40 [39] Giorgio Pantano 14 - - - 82.07 [-2.09]
41 [42] Franck Montagny 7 - - - 69.27 [-0.89]
42 [41] Jos Verstappen 16 - - - 69.07 [-2.78]
43 Justin Wilson 16 - - - 61.70 [-2.45]
44 Ralph Firman 14 - - - 56.81 [-2.37]
45 Timo Glock 4 - - - 47.67 [-1.04]
46 Ricardo Zonta 5 - - - 43.70 [-0.92]
47 Yuji Ide 4 - - - 40.65 [-0.56]
48 Nicholas Kiesa 5 - - - 33.96 [-1.13]
49 Marc Gené 3 - - - 33.51 [-0.92]
50 Eddie Irvine 16 (-1) - - - 29.91 [-3.60]
51 Mika Salo 16 (-1) - - - 28.59 [-3.70]
52 Alan McNish 15 (-1) - - - 18.64 [-2.45]
53 Alex Yoong 10 (-1) - - - 12.59 [-1.86]
54 Markus Winkelhock 1 - - - 12.48 [-0.13]
55 Enrique Bernoldi 10 - - - 7.23 [-1.19]
Fifty five drivers have driven in the last 100 GPs.
The last 156 weeks (3 years)
============================
First race (GP #1) - Italian GP, 12 September 2004
Last race (GP #54) - Italian GP, 09 September 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 53 14 18 10 5340.85 [+273.39] **
2 Kimi Räikkönen 53 10 10 18 3942.82 [-74.70] **
3 Felipe Massa 52 8 5 6 3156.59 [-55.52] **
4 Michael Schumacher 41 (-1) 6 9 11 2893.08 [-92.84]
5 Giancarlo Fisichella 52 2 2 1 1857.06 [-22.50] **
6 Lewis Hamilton 13 (+1) 4 3 1 1675.56 [+93.39] **
7 [8] Jenson Button 50 2 1 0 1463.45 [+3.41] **
8 [7] Rubens Barrichello 54 3 2 2 1454.81 [-26.08] **
9 Nick Heidfeld 48 1 0 0 1317.32 [+23.97] **
10 Juan Pablo Montoya 29 (-1) 2 4 2 1220.13 [-27.87]
11 Ralf Schumacher 52 (+1) 1 0 1 1174.58 [+7.61] **
12 Jarno Trulli 52 0 0 0 1067.80 [-44.50] **
13 David Coulthard 53 0 0 0 922.68 [-25.86] **
14 Mark Webber 53 0 0 0 890.54 [+10.99] **
15 Takuma Sato 47 0 0 0 748.48 [+12.91] **
16 Christijan Albers 45 0 0 0 601.75 [-8.26]
17 [18] Nico Rosberg 31 (+1) 0 0 1 562.46 [+34.37] **
18 [20] Robert Kubica 17 (+1) 0 0 0 551.46 [+40.31] **
19 [17] Tiago Monteiro 36 0 0 0 529.43 [-7.91]
20 [21] Vitantonio Liuzzi 35 (+1) 0 0 0 508.49 [+18.09] **
23 [24] Heikki Kovalainen 13 (+1) 0 0 0 401.95 [+31.25] **
25 Alexander Wurz 14 (+1) 0 0 0 367.14 [+20.23] **
27 [28] Anthony Davidson 14 (+1) 0 0 0 245.03 [+21.76] **
29 Adrian Sutil 13 (+1) 0 0 0 204.84 [+22.21] **
31 Sakon Yamamoto 10 (+1) 0 0 0 130.67 [+22.94] **
32 [34] Sebastian Vettel 4 (+1) 0 0 0 99.88 [+23.36] **
Forty three drivers have driven in the last three years (156 weeks).
The last 104 weeks (2 years)
============================
First race (GP #1) - Belgian GP, 11 September 2005
Last race (GP #35) - Italian GP, 09 September 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Fernando Alonso 35 10 12 8 4127.10 [+228.09] **
2 Felipe Massa 34 8 5 6 2907.21 [-43.47] **
3 Kimi Räikkönen 35 5 5 11 2673.93 [-13.63] **
4 Michael Schumacher 22 (-1) 4 7 7 2095.99 [-42.67]
5 Lewis Hamilton 13 (+1) 4 3 1 1675.56 [+93.39] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 34 1 1 - 1368.85 [-32.91] **
7 Jenson Button 35 1 1 - 1054.72 [-2.45] **
8 Nick Heidfeld 31 (+1) - - - 983.31 [+40.44] **
9 Ralf Schumacher 35 1 - 1 797.62 [-11.87] **
10 Rubens Barrichello 35 - - - 780.07 [-0.49] **
11 [12] Jarno Trulli 35 - - - 651.76 [-12.81] **
12 [13] David Coulthard 35 - - - 641.73 [-20.36] **
13 [14] Mark Webber 35 - - - 610.26 [+1.60] **
14 [16] Nico Rosberg 31 (+1) - - 1 562.46 [+34.37] **
15 [17] Robert Kubica 17 (+1) - - - 551.46 [+40.31] **
16 [15] Takuma Sato 33 - - - 532.16 [+2.45] **
17 [11] Juan Pablo Montoya 14 (-1) 1 1 - 487.97 [-200.49]
18 [19] Vitantonio Liuzzi 31 (+1) - - - 469.24 [+18.79] **
19 [18] Christijan Albers 30 (-1) - - - 430.10 [-20.76]
20 [21] Heikki Kovalainen 13 (+1) - - - 401.95 [+31.25] **
22 [23] Alexander Wurz 13 (+1) - - - 334.37 [+20.84] **
26 [27] Anthony Davidson 13 (+1) - - - 243.36 [+21.79] **
28 Adrian Sutil 13 (+1) - - - 204.84 [+22.21] **
29 [30] Sakon Yamamoto 10 (+1) - - - 130.67 [+22.94] **
31 Sebastian Vettel 4 (+1) - - - 99.88 [+23.36] **
Thirty six drivers have appeared in the last two years (104 weeks).
The last 52 weeks (1 year)
==========================
First race (GP #1) - Italian GP, 10 September 2006
Last race (GP #17) - Italian GP, 09 September 2007
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 [2] Fernando Alonso 17 3 5 5 2071.00 [+257.71] **
2 [1] Felipe Massa 16 7 4 4 1999.14 [-239.09] **
3 [4] Lewis Hamilton 13 (+1) 4 3 1 1675.56 [+93.39] **
4 [3] Kimi Räikkönen 17 3 3 6 1673.91 [+48.07] **
5 Nick Heidfeld 17 - - - 683.31 [+24.37] **
6 Giancarlo Fisichella 16 - - - 567.23 [-15.72] **
7 [8] Robert Kubica 16 - - - 531.48 [+20.33] **
8 [7] Michael Schumacher 4 (-1) - 2 1 420.84 [-104.89]
9 Jenson Button 17 - - - 404.26 [-17.11] **
10 [11] Heikki Kovalainen 13 (+1) - - - 401.95 [+31.25] **
11 [10] Rubens Barrichello 17 - - - 386.64 [-4.45] **
12 [13] Nico Rosberg 17 - - - 369.14 [+28.77] **
13 [12] Jarno Trulli 17 - - - 348.42 [+0.67] **
14 [18] Alexander Wurz 13 (+1) - - - 334.37 [+20.84] **
15 [17] Takuma Sato 16 - - - 324.70 [+8.89] **
16 [14] Ralf Schumacher 17 - - - 321.73 [-8.48] **
17 [16] Mark Webber 17 - - - 317.83 [+1.04] **
18 [15] David Coulthard 17 - - - 307.71 [-20.06] **
19 Vitantonio Liuzzi 17 - - - 261.83 [+16.44] **
20 Anthony Davidson 13 (+1) - - - 243.36 [+21.79] **
21 [23] Adrian Sutil 13 (+1) - - - 204.84 [+22.21] **
24 [25] Sakon Yamamoto 7 - - - 118.55 [+15.39] **
25 [26] Sebastian Vettel 4 (+1) - - - 99.88 [+23.36] **
Thirty drivers have appeared in the last year (52 weeks).
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From: Robert Niestroj <ODPOWIADAJACUSUNTOrniestroj go2.pl.invalid>
Subject: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Pierwsze doniesienia z Paryża - McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008.
Czekamy co dalej ...
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From: "Del_Rey" <wp wp.wp>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
ciekawe na ile to są fakty.
IMO bardzo ciekawe
From: "Del_Rey" <wp wp.wp>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
> ciekawe na ile to są fakty.
> IMO bardzo ciekawe
bo jesli na 2 lata go wyrzucą, to tam naprawde nizły przekręt musiałby być,
niż to co mówią oficjalnie
From: Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp.pl>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Robert Niestroj napisał:
> Pierwsze doniesienia z Paryża - McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008.
> Czekamy co dalej ...
>
Bardzo niepotwierdzone dane.
m.
From: Rais <raistand poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Robert Niestroj pisze:
> Pierwsze doniesienia z Paryża - McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008.
> Czekamy co dalej ...
>
To mój pierwszy raz na tej grupie więc wypada powiedzieć dzień dobry.
:)
Jestem zaskoczony. Nie spodziewałem się takiej decyzji.
Zdaje sie, że to jeszcze nie jest pewne na 100%.
Jeśli okaże się, że to prawda to co w przyszłym roku
z Alonso i Hamiltonem?
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From: "Del_Rey" <wp wp.wp>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
> Jestem zaskoczony. Nie spodziewałem się takiej decyzji.
> Zdaje sie, że to jeszcze nie jest pewne na 100%.
> Jeśli okaże się, że to prawda to co w przyszłym roku
> z Alonso i Hamiltonem?
>
Alonso do BMW :-)))
From: cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Del_Rey pisze:
>> Jestem zaskoczony. Nie spodziewałem się takiej decyzji.
>> Zdaje sie, że to jeszcze nie jest pewne na 100%.
>> Jeśli okaże się, że to prawda to co w przyszłym roku
>> z Alonso i Hamiltonem?
>>
> Alonso do BMW :-)))
>
>
Kubica do Renault czy Toyoty? :)
Hamilton do Prodrive?
From: drheniek gmail.com
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Narazie sa ta jeszcze nie potwierdzone informacje!!! Pewnie wladze
beda debatowac o tym do poznej nocy.
From: Rais <raistand poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
Del_Rey pisze:
>> Jestem zaskoczony. Nie spodziewałem się takiej decyzji.
>> Zdaje sie, że to jeszcze nie jest pewne na 100%.
>> Jeśli okaże się, że to prawda to co w przyszłym roku
>> z Alonso i Hamiltonem?
>>
> Alonso do BMW :-)))
>
Na onecie to już przesądzone.
;)
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From: Robert Niestroj <ODPOWIADAJACUSUNTOrniestroj go2.pl.invalid>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
It was the 2007-09-13 18:08, when Robert Niestroj wrote :
> Pierwsze doniesienia z Paryża - McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008.
> Czekamy co dalej ...
OK, wszyscy się nieco pośpieszyli ;-)
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From: Robert Niestroj <ODPOWIADAJACUSUNTOrniestroj go2.pl.invalid>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
It was the 2007-09-13 19:30, when Robert Niestroj wrote :
według BBC, McLaren zostanie wykluczony tylko z tegorocznej punktacji
konstruktorów i zapłaci 100 mln. dolarów kary.
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From: "PJ" <no spam.com>
Subject: Re: McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008
> Pierwsze doniesienia z Paryża - McLaren wykluczony na 2007 i 2008.
Nie wierzę. To by zabiło zespół i przy okazji F1.
Zmiękną.
PJ
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 14 - BEL - Practice 1
Belgian GP
First Practice - Friday 14 September 2007 - 10:00-11:30
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
============================================================================
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'47.339 16 0.000 0.000 234.904 145.963
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'47.881 19 0.542 0.505 233.724 145.229
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'47.994 17 0.655 0.610 233.480 145.077
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'48.052 20 0.713 0.664 233.354 145.000
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'48.372 18 1.033 0.962 232.665 144.571
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'48.605 20 1.266 1.179 232.166 144.261
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'48.920 20 1.581 1.473 231.495 143.844
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'48.994 19 1.655 1.542 231.338 143.746
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'49.138 22 1.799 1.676 231.032 143.557
7 J Button Honda 1'49.330 22 1.991 1.855 230.627 143.305
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'49.380 25 2.041 1.901 230.521 143.239
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'49.548 21 2.209 2.058 230.168 143.019
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'49.894 23 2.555 2.380 229.443 142.569
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'49.931 19 2.592 2.415 229.366 142.521
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'50.264 22 2.925 2.725 228.673 142.091
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'50.482 27 3.143 2.928 228.222 141.810
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'50.640 16 3.301 3.075 227.896 141.608
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'50.648 20 3.309 3.083 227.879 141.598
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'50.768 22 3.429 3.195 227.633 141.444
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'51.628 12 4.289 3.996 225.879 140.355
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'52.379 21 5.040 4.695 224.369 139.417
5 F Massa Ferrari No time 2
Weather: Air 17, Track 23, Humidity 66%, Dry (windy)
Notes: Felipe Massa went off at the Rivage corner, hitting the barriers. This
was before he had set a time. No other incidents of note.
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From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_LawrenceREMTHIS msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 14 - BEL - Practice 2
Belgian GP
Second Practice - Friday 14 September 2007 - 14:00-15:30
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
============================================================================
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'46.654 29 0.000 0.000 236.413 146.900
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'46.765 29 0.111 0.104 236.167 146.748
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'46.953 27 0.299 0.280 235.752 146.490
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'47.166 26 0.512 0.480 235.284 146.198
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'47.491 33 0.837 0.785 234.572 145.756
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'47.946 34 1.292 1.211 233.583 145.142
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'48.086 30 1.432 1.343 233.281 144.954
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'48.271 29 1.617 1.516 232.882 144.706
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'48.279 37 1.625 1.524 232.865 144.696
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'48.567 38 1.913 1.794 232.247 144.312
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'48.606 36 1.952 1.830 232.164 144.260
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'48.840 32 2.186 2.050 231.665 143.950
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'48.883 17 2.229 2.090 231.573 143.893
7 J Button Honda 1'48.919 29 2.265 2.124 231.497 143.845
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'49.364 31 2.710 2.541 230.555 143.260
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'49.393 28 2.739 2.568 230.494 143.222
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'49.697 32 3.043 2.853 229.855 142.825
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'49.720 34 3.066 2.875 229.807 142.795
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'50.168 23 3.514 3.295 228.872 142.215
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'50.399 24 3.745 3.511 228.393 141.917
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'50.542 24 3.888 3.645 228.098 141.733
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'50.865 9 4.211 3.948 227.433 141.321
Weather: Air 20, Track 35, Humidity 50%, Dry
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From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Sytuacja Kubicy i tankowanie?
WItam :-)
Tak sie zastanawiam, jezeli Kubek awansuje dzisiaj do top 10 i bedzie
mial wymieniony silnik. Jak go cofna to bedzie mogl dowolnie bolid
zatankowac? Nie jestem co do tego przekonany- bo w teorii gdyby tak
bylo to moglby na oparach w Q3 wystartowac :-), ale chyba tak rozowo
nie jest? Jest tkos z regulaminem zapoznany blizej?
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From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Stary_wy=B6cig_F1_w_M?=
Dnia Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:09:07 +0200, "Marcin Narzynski"
<narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl> napisał(a):
>Byłem pewny, że 3 lub 6. I rzeczywiście: "Therefore only Panis, Coulthard
>and Johnny Herbert finished the race, with the Frenchman winning his one and
>only Grand Prix." Ukończyło trzech. Dzięki za linka.
Ukonczylo 4. Byl jeszcze Heinz-Harald Frenten, ktory mial okrazenie
straty do lidera.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1996/136/
Na 5, 6, 7 miejscu zostali skalsyfikowani jeszcze Salo, Hakkinen i
Ervine, bo przejechali 80% dystansu, ale mieli kolizje na ostatnich
okrazeniach.
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From: Przemyslaw Kempinski <kempa007 poczta.fm>
Subject: Re: Sytuacja Kubicy i tankowanie?
Dnia Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:32:37 +0200, Przemyslaw Kempinski
<kempa007 poczta.fm> napisał(a):
>WItam :-)
>
>Tak sie zastanawiam, jezeli Kubek awansuje dzisiaj do top 10 i bedzie
>mial wymieniony silnik. Jak go cofna to bedzie mogl dowolnie bolid
>zatankowac? Nie jestem co do tego przekonany- bo w teorii gdyby tak
>bylo to moglby na oparach w Q3 wystartowac :-), ale chyba tak rozowo
>nie jest? Jest tkos z regulaminem zapoznany blizej?
Sam sobie odpowiem:
"Fuel may not be added to nor removed from any car eligible to take
part in Q3 during that period.
Fuel used during Q3 may be replaced immediately after the cars are
released from parc fermé on the
day of the race, this will be carried out in grid order."
Czyli Kubek nie pojedzie na oparach :-)
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