From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 12 - TUR - Practice 2
Turkish GP
Second Practice - Friday 24 August 2007 - 14:00-15:30
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'28.469 28 0.000 0.000 217.215 134.971
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'28.762 21 0.293 0.331 216.498 134.526
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'28.773 23 0.304 0.344 216.471 134.509
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'28.874 28 0.405 0.458 216.225 134.356
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'28.884 25 0.415 0.469 216.201 134.341
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'28.947 24 0.478 0.540 216.048 134.246
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'28.995 27 0.526 0.595 215.931 134.173
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'29.025 28 0.556 0.628 215.858 134.128
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'29.093 27 0.624 0.705 215.694 134.026
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'29.368 31 0.899 1.016 215.030 133.613
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'29.435 12 0.966 1.092 214.869 133.513
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'29.456 28 0.987 1.116 214.818 133.482
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'29.792 30 1.323 1.495 214.015 132.982
7 J Button Honda 1'29.945 26 1.476 1.668 213.651 132.756
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'30.055 31 1.586 1.793 213.390 132.594
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'30.104 27 1.635 1.848 213.274 132.522
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'30.315 25 1.846 2.087 212.775 132.212
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'30.530 24 2.061 2.330 212.270 131.898
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'30.702 24 2.233 2.524 211.867 131.648
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'30.801 16 2.332 2.636 211.636 131.505
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'31.153 23 2.684 3.034 210.819 130.997
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'31.175 32 2.706 3.059 210.768 130.965
Weather: Air 35, Track 50, Humidity 36%, Dry
Notes: The session was red-flagged for 28 minutes while a loose drain cover was
fixed. The break came 20 minutes after the session started and although the
session resumed later, most drivers failed to improve on their times set earlier.
Any chance of improved times in the final few minutes were dashed when Anthony
Davidson went off into the barriers at Turn 3 - yellow flags remained in place
until the session ended. David Coulthard had a restricted session after an
engine change.
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Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 12 - TUR - Practice 3 & Qually
I'm unlikely to be able to post tomorrow's times until late in the evening
or poss. Sunday morning.
--
Brian
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Fastest Lap of the weekend (France)
Over the last few weeks I've been occasionally working on some stats
regarding fastest laps.
In the olden days you could look at the times in practice and/or
qualification sessions and the cars & drivers would be pretty much
ranked in order of who was quickest. The same was generally true in
the races - the fastest race laps would generally reflect which
ones were quickest. However, in the 21st century things are much
more complicated, so you have to look at the times in all sessions
to arrive at something more meaningful.
First I'll present a list of the fastest lap set by each driver at
the Hungaroring:
Driver Team Session Lap time
=============================================================
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes - - Q2 - - 1'19.301
Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes - - Q2 - - 1'19.661
Jarno Trulli Toyota - - Q2 - - 1'19.951
Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari - - - - R 1'20.047
Felipe Massa Ferrari P3 - - - - 1'20.183
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota - - Q2 - - 1'20.188
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW - - - Q3 - 1'20.259
Heikki Kovalainen Renault - Q1 - - - 1'20.285
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW - Q1 - - - 1'20.366
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault - - Q2 - - 1'20.439
Ralf Schumacher Toyota - Q1 - - - 1'20.449
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault - - Q2 - - 1'20.590
David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault - - Q2 - - 1'20.718
Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota - - Q2 - - 1'20.865
Takuma Sato S Aguri-Honda - - - - R 1'20.980
Anthony Davidson S Aguri-Honda - Q1 - - - 1'21.018
Vitantonio Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari - Q1 - - - 1'21.730
Jenson Button Honda - Q1 - - - 1'21.737
Rubens Barrichello Honda - Q1 - - - 1'21.877
Sebastian Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari - - - - R 1'21.915
Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari - - - - R 1'22.263
Sakon Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari - Q1 - - - 1'23.774
Note that four drivers - including Kimi Räikkönen - set their best
laps during the race.
Secondly, here is a comparison similar to the ones that I post comparing the top
qualifying speeds. The table is ordered so that the biggest improvement is at the
top (Yamamoto/Davidson).
2006 Team Driver S# lps time 2007 Driver S# lps time Diff. %Diff.
==================================================================================
Super Aguri Yamamoto Q1 57 84.016 Davidson Q1 127 81.018 -2.998 -3.57
Super Aguri Sato Q1 113 82.967 Sato R 148 80.980 -1.987 -2.39
Williams Rosberg Q1 52 82.084 Rosberg Q2 167 80.188 -1.896 -2.31
Red Bull Klien Q2 49 81.207 Webber Q2 147 80.439 -0.768 -0.95
McLaren de la Rosa Q2 120 79.991 Hamilton Q2 149 79.301 -0.690 -0.86
Toro Rosso Speed Q1 113 82.317 Vettel R 161 81.915 -0.402 -0.49
BMW Sauber Heidfeld Q2 105 80.623 Heidfeld Q3 171 80.259 -0.364 -0.45
Toro Rosso Liuzzi Q1 67 82.068 Liuzzi Q1 141 81.730 -0.338 -0.41
Toyota Trulli Q2 131 80.231 Trulli Q2 176 79.951 -0.280 -0.35
Red Bull Coulthard Q2 107 80.890 Coulthard Q2 146 80.718 -0.172 -0.21
McLaren Räikkönen Q3 66 79.599 Alonso Q2 145 79.661 +0.062 +0.08
BMW Sauber Kubica Q2 119 80.256 Kubica Q1 173 80.366 +0.110 +0.14
Toyota R Schumacher Q2 129 80.243 Schumacher Q1 171 80.449 +0.206 +0.26
Midland Monteiro Q1 104 82.009 Sutil R 162 82.263 +0.254 +0.31
Renault Fisichella Q2 68 80.154 Fisichella Q2 171 80.590 +0.436 +0.54
Midland Albers Q1 97 83.146 Yamamoto Q1 94 83.774 +0.628 +0.76
Ferrari Massa Q2 109 79.504 Massa P3 140 80.183 +0.679 +0.85
Williams Webber Q2 49 80.047 Wurz Q2 149 80.865 +0.818 +1.02
Renault Alonso Q2 104 79.364 Kovalainen Q1 161 80.285 +0.921 +1.16
Ferrari M Schumacher Q2 112 78.875 Räikkönen R 154 80.047 +1.172 +1.49
Honda Button Q2 116 79.943 Button Q1 131 81.737 +1.794 +2.24
Honda Barrichello Q2 133 79.783 Barrichello Q1 141 81.877 +2.094 +2.62
Thirdly, the equivalent team table - best laps by either driver (note that third
drivers times and laps are excluded).
2006 Team Driver S laps time 2007 Driver S laps time Diff. %Diff.
==================================================================================
Super Aguri Sato Q1 170 82.967 Sato R 275 80.980 -1.987 -2.39
Red Bull Coulthard Q2 156 80.890 Webber Q2 293 80.439 -0.451 -0.56
Toro Rosso Liuzzi Q1 180 82.068 Liuzzi Q1 302 81.730 -0.338 -0.41
McLaren Räikkönen Q3 186 79.599 Hamilton Q2 294 79.301 -0.298 -0.37
Toyota Trulli Q2 260 80.231 Trulli Q2 347 79.951 -0.280 -0.35
BMW Sauber Kubica Q2 224 80.256 Heidfeld Q3 344 80.259 +0.003 +0.00
Williams Webber Q2 101 80.047 Rosberg Q2 316 80.188 +0.141 +0.18
Midland Monteiro Q1 201 82.009 Sutil R 256 82.263 +0.254 +0.31
Renault Alonso Q2 172 79.364 Kovalainen Q1 332 80.285 +0.921 +1.16
Ferrari M Schumacher Q2 221 78.875 Räikkönen R 294 80.047 +1.172 +1.49
Honda Barrichello Q2 249 79.783 Button Q1 272 81.737 +1.954 +2.45
And finally, here is a team by team summary for the season so far:
GP Driver ('06) Time(06) Driver ('07) Time(07) Diff. %Diff.
================================================================================
BMW Sauber-BMW (Michelin) BMW Sauber-BMW (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Heidfeld Q2 86.014 233 Heidfeld Q2 85.358 236 -0.656 -0.76
2 MAS Villeneuve Q2 94.752 164 Heidfeld Q2 95.203 235 +0.451 +0.48
3 BRN Heidfeld Q2 91.958 164 Heidfeld Q2 92.154 303 +0.196 +0.21
4 ESP Heidfeld Q2 75.468 226 Heidfeld Q2 81.113 314 +5.645 +7.48
5 MON Villeneuve Q2 75.052 277 Kubica Q2 75.576 383 +0.524 +0.70
6 CDN Villeneuve P3 75.554 202 Heidfeld Q2 75.960 255 +0.406 +0.54
7 USA Heidfeld Q2 71.718 130 Heidfeld Q2 72.188 372 +0.470 +0.66
8 FRA Heidfeld Q2 76.294 215 Kubica Q2 75.066 327 -1.228 -1.61
9 GBR Heidfeld Q2 80.629 225 Kubica Q2 80.054 306 -0.575 -0.71
10 Eur Villeneuve Q2 90.865 201 Kubica Q2 91.444 308 +0.579 +0.64
11 HUN Kubica Q2 80.256 224 Heidfeld Q3 80.259 344 +0.003 +0.00
Ferrari-Ferrari (Bridgestone) Ferrari-Ferrari (Bridgestone)
1 AUS M Schumacher Q2 86.718 117 Räikkönen R 85.235 246 -1.483 -1.71
2 MAS M Schumacher P3 94.126 236 Massa Q2 94.454 270 +0.328 +0.35
3 BRN M Schumacher Q3 91.431 207 Massa Q2 91.359 273 -0.072 -0.08
4 ESP M Schumacher Q2 74.637 255 Massa Q2 80.597 235 +5.960 +7.99
5 MON M Schumacher Q2 73.709 302 Massa Q3 75.967 355 +2.258 +3.06
6 CDN M Schumacher Q2 75.139 261 Massa Q2 76.138 301 +0.999 +1.33
7 USA M Schumacher Q2 70.636 261 Räikkönen Q2 72.111 338 +1.475 +2.09
8 FRA M Schumacher Q2 75.111 226 Massa Q2 74.822 317 -0.289 -0.38
9 GBR M Schumacher Q3 80.574 231 Räikkönen Q2 79.252 305 -1.322 -1.64
10 Eur M Schumacher Q2 90.013 216 Massa Q2 90.912 265 +0.899 +1.00
11 HUN M Schumacher Q2 78.875 221 Räikkönen R 80.047 294 +1.172 +1.49
Honda-Honda (Michelin) Honda-Honda (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Button Q3 85.229 203 Button Q2 87.264 143 +2.035 +2.39
2 MAS Button Q2 93.527 202 Button Q1 95.913 258 +2.386 +2.55
3 BRN Button Q3 91.549 214 Barrichello Q2 93.624 210 +2.075 +2.27
4 ESP Button Q2 75.150 242 Barrichello Q2 82.097 308 +6.947 +9.24
5 MON Barrichello Q2 74.312 312 Barrichello Q2 76.454 369 +2.142 +2.88
6 CDN Barrichello Q2 75.601 219 Barrichello Q1 77.011 241 +1.410 +1.87
7 USA Barrichello Q2 71.263 212 Button Q2 72.998 265 +1.735 +2.43
8 FRA Barrichello Q1 77.022 164 Button Q2 75.584 337 -1.438 -1.87
9 GBR Barrichello Q2 80.929 167 Barrichello Q2 80.364 263 -0.565 -0.70
10 Eur Barrichello Q2 90.469 202 Barrichello Q2 92.221 231 +1.752 +1.94
11 HUN Barrichello Q2 79.783 249 Button Q1 81.737 272 +1.954 +2.45
McLaren-Mercedes (Michelin) McLaren-Mercedes (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Räikkönen Q3 85.822 189 Alonso Q2 85.326 264 -0.496 -0.58
2 MAS Räikkönen Q2 94.351 142 Alonso Q2 94.057 271 -0.294 -0.31
3 BRN Montoya Q2 91.487 197 Hamilton Q2 91.732 264 +0.245 +0.27
4 ESP Räikkönen Q2 75.422 144 Hamilton Q2 80.713 303 +5.291 +7.02
5 MON Räikkönen Q2 73.532 276 Alonso Q2 75.431 337 +1.899 +2.58
6 CDN Montoya Q2 75.253 187 Hamilton Q2 75.486 307 +0.233 +0.31
7 USA Räikkönen Q2 72.135 87 Alonso P1 71.925 315 -0.210 -0.29
8 FRA Räikkönen Q2 75.742 236 Hamilton Q2 74.795 284 -0.947 -1.25
9 GBR Räikkönen Q3 80.397 202 Alonso Q2 79.152 298 -1.245 -1.55
10 Eur Räikkönen Q2 90.203 210 Alonso Q2 90.983 281 +0.780 +0.86
11 HUN Räikkönen Q3 79.599 186 Hamilton Q2 79.301 294 -0.298 -0.37
Midland-Toyota (Bridgestone) Spyker-Ferrari (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Albers R 89.238 178 Sutil P3 88.678 208 -0.560 -0.63
2 MAS Albers P3 97.232 216 Sutil P3 98.018 164 +0.786 +0.81
3 BRN Monteiro P2 94.459 141 Sutil Q1 95.280 280 +0.821 +0.87
4 ESP Monteiro Q1 77.702 201 Sutil P3 83.584 299 +5.882 +7.57
5 MON Albers Q1 75.598 309 Sutil Q1 78.418 248 +2.820 +3.73
6 CDN Monteiro Q1 77.121 170 Sutil P3 78.270 213 +1.149 +1.49
7 USA Monteiro Q1 72.627 159 Sutil Q1 74.122 320 +1.495 +2.06
8 FRA Albers Q1 76.962 198 Sutil P3 77.517 235 +0.555 +0.72
9 GBR Monteiro Q2 82.207 205 Sutil Q1 82.019 254 -0.188 -0.23
10 Eur Albers Q1 92.936 225 Sutil P3 94.423 165 +1.487 +1.60
11 HUN Monteiro Q1 82.009 201 Sutil R 82.263 256 +0.254 +0.31
Red Bull-Ferrari (Michelin) Red Bull-Renault (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Coulthard Q2 87.023 156 Webber Q2 86.623 218 -0.400 -0.46
2 MAS Klien Q2 94.537 120 Webber Q2 95.579 225 +1.042 +1.10
3 BRN Klien Q2 92.106 206 Webber Q2 92.808 212 +0.702 +0.76
4 ESP Klien Q2 75.928 190 Coulthard Q2 81.488 233 +5.560 +7.32
5 MON Coulthard Q2 73.687 275 Coulthard Q2 76.319 220 +2.632 +3.57
6 CDN Klien Q2 75.833 221 Webber Q2 76.257 291 +0.424 +0.56
7 USA Klien Q1 72.773 157 Webber Q2 72.788 254 +0.015 +0.02
8 FRA Coulthard Q2 75.974 238 Webber Q1 75.746 290 -0.228 -0.30
9 GBR Coulthard Q2 81.442 198 Webber Q2 80.235 214 -1.207 -1.48
10 Eur Coulthard Q2 91.227 116 Webber Q2 91.661 277 +0.434 +0.48
11 HUN Coulthard Q2 80.890 156 Webber Q2 80.439 293 -0.451 -0.56
Renault-Renault (Michelin) Renault-Renault (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Fisichella Q3 85.635 214 Kovalainen P3 86.937 254 +1.302 +1.52
2 MAS Fisichella Q2 93.623 214 Kovalainen Q2 95.630 280 +2.007 +2.14
3 BRN Alonso Q2 91.215 172 Fisichella Q2 92.889 291 +1.674 +1.84
4 ESP Alonso Q3 74.648 240 Kovalainen Q2 81.623 327 +6.975 +9.34
5 MON Alonso Q2 73.622 312 Fisichella Q2 76.054 360 +2.432 +3.30
6 CDN Alonso Q2 74.726 263 Fisichella Q2 76.288 276 +1.562 +2.09
7 USA Fisichella Q2 71.200 261 Kovalainen P3 72.574 363 +1.374 +1.93
8 FRA Alonso Q2 75.706 238 Fisichella Q2 75.227 352 -0.479 -0.63
9 GBR Alonso Q3 80.253 208 Fisichella Q2 80.042 327 -0.211 -0.26
10 Eur Alonso Q3 89.819 209 Kovalainen Q2 91.783 280 +1.964 +2.19
11 HUN Alonso Q2 79.364 172 Kovalainen Q1 80.285 332 +0.921 +1.16
Super Aguri-Honda (Bridgestone) Super Aguri-Honda (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Sato R 90.574 223 Davidson P3 86.491 241 -4.083 -4.51
2 MAS Sato P3 98.821 206 Sato Q2 95.945 241 -2.876 -2.91
3 BRN Sato P3 96.994 195 Davidson P3 92.900 229 -4.094 -4.22
4 ESP Sato P3 78.857 191 Davidson P3 81.845 315 +2.988 +3.79
5 MON Sato P3 77.148 273 Sato P2 77.459 321 +0.311 +0.40
6 CDN Sato P3 78.926 197 Sato Q2 76.743 292 -2.183 -2.77
7 USA Sato Q1 73.496 102 Davidson P3 73.069 266 -0.427 -0.58
8 FRA Montagny Q1 78.637 164 Davidson P3 75.925 240 -2.712 -3.45
9 GBR Sato P2 85.870 209 Davidson P3 80.915 269 -4.955 -5.77
10 Eur Sato Q1 95.239 194 Davidson Q2 92.451 258 -2.788 -2.93
11 HUN Sato Q1 82.967 170 Sato R 80.980 275 -1.987 -2.39
Toro Rosso-Cosworth (Michelin) Toro Rosso-Ferrari (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Liuzzi Q2 87.219 184 Liuzzi R 88.282 183 +1.063 +1.22
2 MAS Speed Q1 96.297 207 Liuzzi Q1 96.140 135 -0.157 -0.16
3 BRN Liuzzi P2 92.703 223 Liuzzi P3 93.700 185 +0.997 +1.08
4 ESP Liuzzi Q2 76.661 208 Speed P3 82.314 168 +5.653 +7.37
5 MON Liuzzi Q2 74.969 318 Liuzzi Q2 76.703 258 +1.734 +2.31
6 CDN Liuzzi Q2 76.116 244 Liuzzi Q2 76.760 225 +0.644 +0.85
7 USA Liuzzi P3 72.675 197 Liuzzi P2 73.332 321 +0.657 +0.90
8 FRA Speed Q2 77.063 232 Speed P2 75.773 239 -1.290 -1.67
9 GBR Liuzzi Q2 81.699 155 Speed Q2 80.515 269 -1.184 -1.45
10 Eur Liuzzi Q2 91.728 163 Liuzzi P3 92.841 146 +1.113 +1.21
11 HUN Liuzzi Q1 82.068 180 Liuzzi Q1 81.730 302 -0.338 -0.41
Toyota-Toyota (Bridgestone) Toyota-Toyota (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Trulli Q2 86.327 162 Trulli Q2 86.688 267 +0.361 +0.42
2 MAS R Schumacher Q2 94.586 219 Trulli Q2 95.255 301 +0.669 +0.71
3 BRN Trulli P3 93.038 192 Trulli Q2 92.429 293 -0.609 -0.65
4 ESP Trulli Q2 75.068 146 Trulli Q2 81.554 251 +6.486 +8.64
5 MON Trulli Q2 74.211 308 Trulli P2 76.354 337 +2.143 +2.89
6 CDN Trulli Q2 75.506 263 Trulli Q2 76.600 281 +1.094 +1.45
7 USA R Schumacher Q2 71.673 237 Trulli Q2 72.828 298 +1.155 +1.61
8 FRA Trulli Q1 75.550 144 Trulli Q2 75.379 285 -0.171 -0.23
9 GBR R Schumacher Q2 81.043 162 Schumacher Q2 79.860 267 -1.183 -1.46
10 Eur Trulli Q2 90.733 228 Schumacher Q2 91.843 267 +1.110 +1.22
11 HUN Trulli Q2 80.231 260 Trulli Q2 79.951 347 -0.280 -0.35
Williams-Cosworth (Bridgestone) Williams-Toyota (Bridgestone)
1 AUS Webber Q2 86.075 94 Rosberg R 86.721 223 +0.646 +0.75
2 MAS Webber Q2 94.279 94 Rosberg Q2 95.380 230 +1.101 +1.17
3 BRN Webber Q2 92.309 176 Rosberg Q2 92.815 277 +0.506 +0.55
4 ESP Webber Q2 75.502 210 Rosberg Q1 81.943 228 +6.441 +8.53
5 MON Webber Q2 73.728 262 Rosberg Q2 76.100 247 +2.372 +3.22
6 CDN Rosberg Q2 75.269 160 Rosberg Q2 76.190 266 +0.921 +1.22
7 USA Webber Q2 72.292 151 Rosberg P1 73.020 282 +0.728 +1.01
8 FRA Rosberg Q2 75.926 220 Rosberg Q2 75.331 329 -0.595 -0.78
9 GBR Rosberg Q2 81.567 126 Wurz Q2 80.350 295 -1.217 -1.49
10 Eur Webber Q2 90.892 164 Rosberg Q2 91.978 228 +1.086 +1.19
11 HUN Webber Q2 80.047 101 Rosberg Q2 80.188 316 +0.141 +0.18
To summarise the team's efforts so far.
Super Aguri-Honda Quicker 9 times, slower 2 times
McLaren-Mercedes 6 5
Ferrari-Ferrari 4 7
Red Bull-Renault 4 7
Toro Rosso-Ferrari 4 7
Toyota-Toyota 4 7
BMW Sauber-BMW 3 8
Honda-Honda 2 9
Spyker-Ferrari 2 9
Renault-Renault 2 9
Williams-Toyota 2 9
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Re: Fastest Lap of the weekend (France)
France? I think I meant Hungary :-)
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 12 - TUR - Practice 3
Turkish GP
Third Practice - Saturday 25 August 2007 - 11:00-12:00
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
===========================================================================
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.325 12 0.000 0.000 220.061 136.739
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'27.366 15 0.041 0.047 219.957 136.675
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'27.506 16 0.181 0.207 219.606 136.457
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.743 13 0.418 0.479 219.012 136.088
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'28.056 16 0.731 0.837 218.234 135.604
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'28.184 18 0.859 0.984 217.917 135.407
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'28.224 21 0.899 1.029 217.818 135.346
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'28.261 20 0.936 1.072 217.727 135.289
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'28.337 15 1.012 1.159 217.540 135.173
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'28.364 17 1.039 1.190 217.473 135.132
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'28.413 16 1.088 1.246 217.353 135.057
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'28.448 14 1.123 1.286 217.267 135.003
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'28.481 20 1.156 1.324 217.186 134.953
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'28.520 21 1.195 1.368 217.090 134.893
7 J Button Honda 1'28.548 16 1.223 1.401 217.021 134.851
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'28.715 18 1.390 1.592 216.613 134.597
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.755 16 1.430 1.638 216.515 134.536
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'28.937 20 1.612 1.846 216.072 134.261
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'29.408 19 2.083 2.385 214.934 133.554
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'29.436 14 2.111 2.417 214.866 133.512
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'30.044 22 2.719 3.114 213.416 132.610
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'30.712 21 3.387 3.879 211.844 131.634
Weather: Air ??, Track ??, Humidity ??%, Dry (windy)
Notes: Weather data not available from the usual source. Hamilton's car cut
out shortly after leaving the pits for his first lap. Repairs were quickly
made and he was able to join the session after less than half an hour. In
an eventful session for Hamilton he had a spin at Turn 7. Takuma Sato spun
off into the gravel at Turn 3 and was unable to rejoin the session.
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: 2007 - 12 - TUR - Qualifying
Turkish GP
Qualifying - Saturday 25 August 2007 14:00
Qualifying-1
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
============================================================================
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'27.294 4 0.000 0.000 220.139 136.788
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.328 3 0.034 0.039 220.053 136.735
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'27.488 4 0.194 0.222 219.651 136.485
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.513 3 0.219 0.251 219.588 136.446
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'27.997 3 0.703 0.805 218.380 135.695
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'28.099 3 0.805 0.922 218.127 135.538
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'28.127 7 0.833 0.954 218.058 135.495
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'28.275 3 0.981 1.124 217.692 135.268
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.304 6 1.010 1.157 217.621 135.223
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'28.313 7 1.019 1.167 217.599 135.210
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'28.318 7 1.024 1.173 217.586 135.202
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'28.360 6 1.066 1.221 217.483 135.138
7 J Button Honda 1'28.373 6 1.079 1.236 217.451 135.118
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'28.395 6 1.101 1.261 217.397 135.084
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'28.500 6 1.206 1.382 217.139 134.924
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'28.792 6 1.498 1.716 216.425 134.480
============================================================================
18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'28.798 9 1.504 1.723 216.410 134.471
11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'28.809 7 1.515 1.736 216.383 134.454
22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.953 8 1.659 1.900 216.033 134.237
19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'29.408 6 2.114 2.422 214.934 133.554
20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'29.861 9 2.567 2.941 213.850 132.880
21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'31.479 7 4.185 4.794 210.068 130.530
Qualifying-2
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
============================================================================
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'26.841 3 0.000 0.000 221.287 137.501
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'26.902 3 0.061 0.070 221.132 137.405
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'26.936 3 0.095 0.109 221.045 137.351
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'27.039 3 0.198 0.228 220.784 137.189
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'27.253 3 0.412 0.474 220.242 136.852
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'27.253 3 0.412 0.474 220.242 136.852
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'27.750 6 0.909 1.047 218.995 136.077
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'27.784 6 0.943 1.086 218.910 136.024
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'27.801 6 0.960 1.105 218.868 135.998
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'27.880 6 1.039 1.196 218.671 135.876
============================================================================
23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.002 6 1.161 1.337 218.368 135.687
15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'28.013 6 1.172 1.350 218.340 135.670
14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'28.100 6 1.259 1.450 218.125 135.536
8 R Barrichello Honda 1'28.188 6 1.347 1.551 217.907 135.401
7 J Button Honda 1'28.220 6 1.379 1.588 217.828 135.352
17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'28.390 8 1.549 1.784 217.409 135.092
Qualifying-3
## Driver Team Time Lps Gap %Gap Km/hr mph
============================================================================
5 F Massa Ferrari 1'27.329 11 0.000 0.000 220.051 136.733
2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.373 11 0.044 0.050 219.940 136.664
6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'27.546 11 0.217 0.248 219.505 136.394
1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.574 11 0.245 0.281 219.435 136.351
10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'27.722 11 0.393 0.450 219.065 136.121
9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'28.037 11 0.708 0.811 218.281 135.633
4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'28.491 11 1.162 1.331 217.161 134.938
16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'28.501 11 1.172 1.342 217.137 134.922
12 J Trulli Toyota 1'28.740 11 1.411 1.616 216.552 134.559
3 G Fisichella Renault 1'29.322 11 1.993 2.282 215.141 133.682
Final Grid Order
Pos # Driver Team Time Lps Changes
================================================================
1 5 F Massa Ferrari 1'27.329 11
2 2 L Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.373 11
3 6 K Räikkönen Ferrari 1'27.546 11
4 1 F Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 1'27.574 11
5 10 R Kubica BMW Sauber-BMW 1'27.722 11
6 9 N Heidfeld BMW Sauber-BMW 1'28.037 11
7 4 H Kovalainen Renault 1'28.491 11
8 16 N Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1'28.501 11
9 12 J Trulli Toyota 1'28.740 11
10 3 G Fisichella Renault 1'29.322 11
================================================================
11 23 A Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.002 6
12 15 M Webber Red Bull-Renault 1'28.013 6
13 14 D Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1'28.100 6
14 8 R Barrichello Honda 1'28.188 6
15 17 A Wurz Williams-Toyota 1'28.390 8 +1
================================================================
16 18 V Liuzzi T Rosso-Ferrari 1'28.798 9 +1
17 11 R Schumacher Toyota 1'28.809 7 +1
18 22 T Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1'28.953 8 +1
19 19 S Vettel T Rosso-Ferrari 1'29.408 6 +1
20 20 A Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 1'29.861 9 +1
21 21 S Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 1'31.479 7 +1
22 7 J Button Honda 1'28.220 6 -10 [engine penalty]
Weather: Air 35, Track 50, Humidity 29%, Dry (windy)
Notes: Honda have decided to change Button's engine so Jenson will start from
last place.
--
Brian Lawrence
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
Wantage, Oxon.
From: "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_ustala_szkodliw=B1_strate?=
Witam,
Toż to staje się zabawne, jak BMW kombinuje z PIT stopami. Tym razem uraczył
nas nowym sposobem nad wyhamowaniem Kubicy. Wystarczy kazać mu zjechać do
boksu na początku wyścigu - gdy już zaczyna dobrze jechać - i dociążyć go
tak paliwem, żeby tracił po 2 sek na okrążeniu: murowane zwycięstwo
Heidfelda.
Swoją drogą jakoś słabo Kubica dziś jechał. Może zapomnieli mu wymienić tej
skrzywionej w ostatnim wyścigu tylnej osi? ;)
Pozdrawiam
MN
From: cgl <kryglow poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Re=3A_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_?=
Marcin Narzynski pisze:
> Witam,
>
> Toż to staje się zabawne, jak BMW kombinuje z PIT stopami. Tym razem
> uraczył nas nowym sposobem nad wyhamowaniem Kubicy. Wystarczy kazać mu
> zjechać do boksu na początku wyścigu - gdy już zaczyna dobrze jechać - i
> dociążyć go tak paliwem, żeby tracił po 2 sek na okrążeniu: murowane
> zwycięstwo Heidfelda.
>
> Swoją drogą jakoś słabo Kubica dziś jechał. Może zapomnieli mu wymienić
> tej skrzywionej w ostatnim wyścigu tylnej osi? ;)
>
Kubica ma w tym roku problemy techniczne i troche pecha, ale tym nie
mozna tlumaczyc wszystkiego.
Mam wrazenie jakby teraz bardziej kalkulowal zamiast po prostu sie
scigac. W ubieglym roku jezdzac gorszym bolidem potrafil naprawde
walczyc i robic swietne wrazenie. Teraz jego jazda jest niestety
bezbarwna, zadnym efektownych atakow czy wyprzedzen. Zamiast tego mamy
latwe puszczanie Hamiltona i Alonso. Duzo lepsze wrazenie sprawiaja
teraz Rosberg i Kovalainen, Robert niestety jakos sie zatracil :(
From: "Albert" <AlbertK zxcvb.com>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_ustala_szkodliw=B1_stra?=
Użytkownik "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl> napisał w
wiadomości news:fas59l$r9d$1 achot.icm.edu.pl...
> Witam,
>
> Toż to staje się zabawne, jak BMW kombinuje z PIT stopami.
Plan byl wystartowac z 2 rzedu i walczyc o prowadzenie na poczatku - nie
wyszlo
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/2007/08/Rampf_Wir_koennen_es_uns_leisten_07082638.html
"Das Ziel war es, in die zweite Reihe und dann vorne mitzufahren." Willy
Rampf
From: "radekp alpha.net.pl" <radekp alpha.net.pl>
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW?=
Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:48:18 +0200, w <fau33k$g0i$1 news.onet.pl>, "Albert"
<AlbertK zxcvb.com> napisa=B3(-a):
>=20
> Plan byl wystartowac z 2 rzedu i walczyc o prowadzenie na poczatku - =
nie=20
> wyszlo
Ale po co? :)
> =
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news/2007/08/Rampf_Wir_koennen_es_uns_=
leisten_07082638.html
> "Das Ziel war es, in die zweite Reihe und dann vorne mitzufahren." =
Willy=20
> Rampf=20
Plan taki sobie. Na dodatek Kubica w kwalifikacjach a=BF tak szybko nie =
pojecha=B3,
aby mog=B3o co=B6 z niego wyj=B6=E6. W wy=B6cigu r=F3wnie=BF jecha=B3 =
wyra=BCnie wolniej od
Heidfelda (0,6s r=F3=BFnica w Fastest Laps).
Gdyby Robert by=B3 szybszy o 1s na okr=B1=BFeniu (a powinien by=E6 =
szybszy z tak=B1
ilo=B6ci=B1 paliwa) to przegra=B3by najwy=BFej z Heidfeldem.
Z drugiej strony Turcja to nie jest taki tor, gdzie mniejsza ilo=B6=E6 =
paliwa
przek=B3ada si=EA na du=BF=B1 r=F3=BFnic=EA czasow=B1 (jak w Monako na =
przyk=B3ad).
From: "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_ustala_szkodliw=B1_stra?=
>Plan taki sobie. (...)
Chciałoby się powiedzieć "jak zwykle".
Jak zwykle BMW nie umie zaplanować dobrej strategii. Nie umie też dostosować
strategii do sytuacji na torze.
Niech chociaż raz zrobią dokładnie to, co robią mistrzowskie zespoły.
MN
From: Piotr Zdziechowiak <mortar ta_kiedys_wyborcza_prasa.pl>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Re=3A_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_?=
Marcin Narzynski pisze:
> Witam,
>
> Toż to staje się zabawne, jak BMW kombinuje z PIT stopami. Tym razem
> uraczył nas nowym sposobem nad wyhamowaniem Kubicy. Wystarczy kazać mu
> zjechać do boksu na początku wyścigu - gdy już zaczyna dobrze jechać
Zaczął dobrze jechać, bo miał mało paliwa.
- i
> dociążyć go tak paliwem, żeby tracił po 2 sek na okrążeniu: murowane
> zwycięstwo Heidfelda.
Fakt, wyścig był tak nudny (przynajmniej realizator pokazywał zawsze tam
gdzie nic się nie działo), że przysypiałem, ale Heidfeld zwyciężył? To
chyba inny wyścig oglądałem.
> Swoją drogą jakoś słabo Kubica dziś jechał. Może zapomnieli mu wymienić
> tej skrzywionej w ostatnim wyścigu tylnej osi? ;)
I jeszcze dołożyli z tyłu beczkę...
From: Piotr Zdziechowiak <mortar ta_kiedys_wyborcza_prasa.pl>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Re=3A_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_?=
cgl pisze:
> Kubica ma w tym roku problemy techniczne i troche pecha, ale tym nie
> mozna tlumaczyc wszystkiego.
> Mam wrazenie jakby teraz bardziej kalkulowal zamiast po prostu sie
> scigac. W ubieglym roku jezdzac gorszym bolidem potrafil naprawde
> walczyc i robic swietne wrazenie. Teraz jego jazda jest niestety
> bezbarwna, zadnym efektownych atakow czy wyprzedzen.
Popatrz na czasy okrążeń. W tej chwili od najgorszego do najlepszego
zespołu jest 3,5 sekundy. Pierwsza dziesiątka nie przekracza sekundy
różnicy. To nie są różnice pozwalające na wyprzedzanie. Czy powiesz, że
Massa (zwycięzca GP Turcji) jechał bezbarwnie podczas zawodów w Wielkiej
Brytanii?
> Zamiast tego mamy
> latwe puszczanie Hamiltona i Alonso. Duzo lepsze wrazenie sprawiaja
> teraz Rosberg i Kovalainen, Robert niestety jakos sie zatracil :(
Williams (o ile pamiętam to 9 WC) i Reanult (2 razy WC) to świetne
zespoły i potrafią doskonale wypracować strategię wyścigu. Pomimo
słabszych bolidów nadal walczą i potrafią się pokazać (poza tym uważam,
że Nico jest przereklamowanym bubkiem bez talentu. Co innego Heikki)
From: Piotr Zdziechowiak <mortar ta_kiedys_wyborcza_prasa.pl>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Re=3A_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_?=
Marcin Narzynski pisze:
> Witam,
>
> Toż to staje się zabawne, jak BMW kombinuje z PIT stopami.
Wierzę, że Theissen mówi prawdę. Oni naprawdę teraz nie mają nic do
stracenia, więc dlaczego nie grać vabanq. Dodatkowo to raczej działa na
korzyść Kubicy - jest lepszy, to dajmy mu trudniejsze zadanie.
From: "radekp alpha.net.pl" <radekp alpha.net.pl>
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW?=
Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:48:12 +0200, w <faurnv$8gd$1 achot.icm.edu.pl>, =
"Marcin
Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl> napisa=B3(-a):
> >Plan taki sobie. (...)
>=20
> Chcia=B3oby si=EA powiedzie=E6 "jak zwykle".
> Jak zwykle BMW nie umie zaplanowa=E6 dobrej strategii. Nie umie te=BF =
dostosowa=E6=20
> strategii do sytuacji na torze.
> Niech chocia=BF raz zrobi=B1 dok=B3adnie to, co robi=B1 mistrzowskie =
zespo=B3y.
Ale po co? :) Nie dogoni=B1 ich, a i tak nikt nie dogoni ich (Renault i =
reszta),
na dodatek Kubica i tak nie dogoni Heidfelda w klasyfikacji, to niech =
troch=EA
poznaj=B1 mo=BFliwo=B6ci kierowc=F3w i smak ryzyka...
From: "Albert" <AlbertK zxcvb.com>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_F1_Turcji_-_czy_BMW_specjalnie_ustala_szkodliw=B1_stra?=
Użytkownik "Piotr Zdziechowiak" <mortar ta_kiedys_wyborcza_prasa.pl> napisał
w wiadomości news:fauuns$rkn$2 inews.gazeta.pl...
> Wierzę, że Theissen mówi prawdę. Oni naprawdę teraz nie mają nic do
> stracenia, więc dlaczego nie grać vabanq. Dodatkowo to raczej działa na
> korzyść Kubicy - jest lepszy, to dajmy mu trudniejsze zadanie.
>
Chyba nie tylko to - raczej sprawdzaja cos przed Monza i Spa - chca
powalczyc :)
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Qualifying Speeds #12 - updated after Istanbul Park
These comparisons only use the top speeds recorded through the regular speed
trap during the Saturday Qualifying sessions. This means that, at most events,
there are comparisons that are fairly meaningless because of some problem that
affected one or more drivers during one particular session.
The first table compares the 2006 team/driver combination with the equivalent
2007 team/driver - the same driver if possible, otherwise the 2006 driver is
compared to his 2007 replacement. This analysis is intended as a team comparison,
but the first table is also of some interest - but should be read with caution.
Turkish GP - 2006-07
2006 2007
Team-Engine Driver km/h Team-Engine Driver km/h Dif. %Diff.
====================================================================================
S Aguri-Honda Yamamoto 299.1 S Aguri-Honda Davidson 316.9 +17.8 +6.0
McLaren-Mercedes Räikkönen 308.4 McLaren-Mercedes Alonso 323.9 +15.5 +5.0
S Aguri-Honda Sato 303.1 S Aguri-Honda Sato 317.1 +14.0 +4.6
Williams-Cosworth Rosberg 305.6 Williams-Toyota Rosberg 319.3 +13.7 +4.5
Williams-Cosworth Webber 306.6 Williams-Toyota Wurz 319.4 +12.8 +4.2
Honda Button 304.1 Honda Button 316.3 +12.2 +4.0
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 307.5 BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld 319.3 +11.8 +3.8
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 308.9 BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica 320.1 +11.2 +3.6
T Rosso-Cosworth Liuzzi 306.2 T Rosso-Ferrari Liuzzi 316.9 +10.7 +3.5
Honda Barrichello 306.3 Honda Barrichello 316.8 +10.5 +3.4
Red Bull-Ferrari Klien 303.7 Red Bull-Renault Webber 313.3 +9.6 +3.2
McLaren-Mercedes de la Rosa 312.4 McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton 322.0 +9.6 +3.1
Midland-Toyota Monteiro 303.1 Spyker-Ferrari Sutil 312.0 +8.9 +2.9
Toyota Trulli 312.5 Toyota Trulli 321.3 +8.8 +2.8
Toyota R Schumacher 310.2 Toyota Schumacher 318.7 +8.5 +2.7
Midland-Toyota Albers 304.0 Spyker-Ferrari Yamamoto 312.2 +8.2 +2.7
Red Bull-Ferrari Coulthard 306.3 Red Bull-Renault Coulthard 313.2 +6.9 +2.2
T Rosso-Cosworth Speed 309.8 T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel 315.9 +6.1 +2.0
Renault Alonso 314.3 Renault Kovalainen 319.9 +5.6 +1.8
Renault Fisichella 314.4 Renault Fisichella 319.7 +5.3 +1.7
Ferrari Massa 315.6 Ferrari Massa 319.5 +3.9 +1.2
Ferrari M Schumacher 315.6 Ferrari Räikkönen 319.1 +3.5 +1.1
The second table compares the best speed achieved by each team (IE both drivers), and
as such is a better measure of the year-on-year change.
2006 2007
Team-Engine km/h Team-Engine km/h Diff. %Diff.
==================================================================
1. S Aguri-Honda 303.1 S Aguri-Honda 317.1 +14.0 +4.62
2. Williams-Cosworth 306.6 Williams-Toyota 319.4 +12.8 +4.17
3. McLaren-Mercedes 312.4 McLaren-Mercedes 323.9 +11.5 +3.68
4. BMW Sauber-BMW 308.9 BMW Sauber-BMW 320.1 +11.2 +3.62
5. Honda 306.3 Honda 316.8 +10.5 +3.43
6. Toyota 312.5 Toyota 321.3 +8.8 +2.82
7. Midland-Toyota 304.0 Spyker-Ferrari 312.2 +8.2 +2.70
8. T Rosso-Cosworth 309.8 T Rosso-Ferrari 316.9 +7.1 +2.29
9. Red Bull-Ferrari 306.3 Red Bull-Renault 313.3 +7.0 +2.28
10. Renault 314.4 Renault 319.9 +5.3 +1.68
11. Ferrari 315.6 Ferrari 319.5 +3.9 +1.24
2007 speed trap data from:
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2007/781/6435/speed_trap.html
The second table ranks the eleven teams in order of the largest increase in
top speed, with Super Aguri making the biggest advance at Istanbul Park, and
Ferrari the smallest. (At some events some teams have failed to better their
top speed from 2006.
Here are the rankings at each 2007 event to date together with the
average ranking for the season so far.
AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR Avge.
==========================================================================
1. Super Aguri-Honda 2 1 1 1 10 2 9 2 2 1 9 1 3.42
2. T Rosso-Ferrari 4 2 4 5 3 8 2 6 1 3 1 8 3.92
3. Williams-Toyota 8 6 2 4 5 6 4 1 4 6 2 2 4.17
4. Red Bull-Renault 6 9 3 3 9 1 1 3 5 2 7 9 4.83
5. Spyker-Ferrari 1 8 10 2 6 6 4 9 6 5 10 7 6.17
6. Toyota 5 4 5 8 7 9 6 7 8 8 5 6 6.50
McLaren-Mercedes 10 10 9 6 2 5 11 8 3 7 4 3 6.50
8. Honda 7 7 8 7 4 11 3 5 7 4 11 5 6.58
9. BMW Sauber-BMW 11 11 7 9 1 3 10 4 9 9 6 4 7.00
10. Renault 9 5 11 10 8 4 7 10 9 11 3 10 8.08
11. Ferrari 3 3 6 11 11 10 8 11 11 10 8 11 8.58
Note: Toro Rosso, Williams, Red Bull & Spyker have all changed engine supplier
since 2006.
There have been some events where two teams were equal (to two decimals of
percentage difference) and have been ranked equally (BMW and Renault at
Silverstone is an example).
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Engine Usage After 12 Events
Engine Usage So Far - after Turkish GP
E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2007
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2007
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2007
NENGP - New Engine at Next GP
FCNGP - Free engine Change at Next GP (possible)
Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier is halfway
through a two-race cycle.
C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg. Next
==================================================================
3 G Fisichella Renault RS27 6 5,767 961 NENGP
9 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/7 6 5,625 938 NENGP
10 R Kubica/S Vettel BMW P86/7 6 5,517 920 NENGP
12 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-07 6 5,383 897 NENGP
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108T 6 5,318 886 NENGP
1 Fernando Alonso Mercedes FO108T 6 5,234 872 NENGP
6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 056 6 5,090 848 NENGP
11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota RVX-07 6 4,767 795 NENGP
17 Alex Wurz Toyota RVX-07 6 4,740 790 NENGP
15 Mark Webber Renault RS27 6 4,429 738 NENGP
19 S Speed/S Vettel Ferrari 056 6 3,401 567 NENGP
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault RS27 7 5,740 [820]
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 7 5,331 762 NENGP
16 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-07 7 5,006 [728]
22 Takuma Sato Honda RA807E 7 4,590 [656]
14 David Coulthard Renault RS27 7 4,333 [619]
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 7 4,187 [598]
21 Albers/W'hock/Yamam Ferrari 056 7 3,912 559 NENGP
18 Vitantonio Liuzzi Ferrari 056 7 3,690 [527]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
8 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA807E 8 5,250 [656]
23 Anthony Davidson Honda RA807E 8 4,596 [575]
7 Jenson Button Honda RA807E 8 4,526 [566]
------------------------------------------------------------------
146 106,432 [730]
Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
==================================================
BMW Sauber BMW P86/7 12 11,142 929
McLaren Mercedes FO108T 12 10,552 879
Toyota Toyota RVX-07 12 10,150 846
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Renault Renault RS27 13 11,507 [885]
Ferrari Ferrari 056 13 10,421 802
Williams Toyota RVX-07 13 9,746 [757]
Red Bull Renault RS27 13 8,762 [674]
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 13 7,091 [545]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Spyker Ferrari 056 14 8,099 [579]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Super Aguri Honda RA807E 15 9,186 [612]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Honda Honda RA807E 16 9,776 [611]
--------------------------------------------------
146 106,432 [730]
Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
============================================================
BMW P86/7 12 11,142 929 BMW Sauber
Mercedes FO108T 12 10,552 879 McLaren
Toyota RVX-07 25 19,896 [799] Toyota, Williams
Renault RS27 26 20,269 [780] Renault, Red Bull
Ferrari 056 40 25,611 [640] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Spyker
Honda RA807E 31 18,962 [612] Honda, Super Aguri
------------------------------------------------------------
146 106,432 [730]
Enforced Engine Changes (Incurring 10-place penalty)
====================================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
01 AUS Ferrari 056 5 Ferrari F Massa After Qual
01 AUS Ferrari 056 21 Spyker C Albers Race day
02 MAS Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello Race day
06 CDN Renault RS27 4 Renault H Kovalainen Before Qual
08 FRA Ferrari 056 20 Spyker A Sutil After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 7 Honda J Button After Qual
12 TUR Honda RA807E 8 Honda R Barrichello After Qual
Number of enforced changes
==========================
Ferrari 3
Honda 3
Renault 1
BMW 0
Mercedes 0
Toyota 0
--------------
7
Free Engine Changes (No penalty)
================================
GP Engine C# Team Driver When
====================================================================
02 MAS Renault RS27 14 Red Bull D Coulthard Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 9 Honda J Button Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA807E 22 S Aguri T Sato Pre-event
04 ESP Honda RA897E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
08 FRA Toyota RVX-07 16 Williams N Rosberg Pre-event
08 FRA Ferrari 056 18 Toro Rosso V Liuzzi Pre-event
09 GBR Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
10 Eur Honda RA807E 23 S Aguri A Davidson Pre-event
Number of free changes
======================
Honda 5
Renault 1
Ferrari 1
Toyota 1
BMW 0
Mercedes 0
--------------
8
All engine usage data from www.forix.autosport.com
What was the situation after 12 events in 2006?
2006 2007
=================================
Engines used 162 146
Total km. 126,211 106,432 [1]
Average km. 779 730 [1]
Enforced changes 24 5
"Free" changes 22 8
1. The reason for the reduction in distance covered is because Friday
is no longer counted as part of the two events for each engine. Teams
now use different engines on Friday and swap to the "race" engines
for Saturday and Sunday.
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From: "Horner" <horner poczta.fm>
Subject: Finałowa runda WMMP - darmowe wjazdowki
darmowe wjazdówki dla fanów wyścigów motocyklowych na Torze Poznań :)
http://poznan4u.pl/imprezy/index.php?akcja=impreza&impreza=2327
--
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http://poznan4u.pl - portal Poznań
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Qualifying Statistics #13 - updated after Monza
Average Starting Position 2007 - after Monza, Qualifying #13
============================================================
| Pre-2003
2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 | F1 Career
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP | Pos. ASP
==================================================================================
1. 2.77 [-0.06] L Hamilton - - - - - - - - | - -
2. 3.15 [-0.18] F Alonso 1 4.28 1 3.95 7 7.56 8 7.88 |166 19.47
3. 3.92 [+0.09] K Räikkönen 4 5.83 2 5.68 9 8.22 6 6.81 | 31 7.71
4. 4.77 [-0.15] F Massa 2 6.67 17 11.89 18 13.50 - - | 77 11.88
5. 5.15 [-0.10] N Heidfeld 10 10.17 12 9.57 21 16.00 15 12.31 | 81 12.28
6. 5.92 [+0.01] R Kubica 9 8.83 - - - - - - | - -
7.[=7] 8.92 J Trulli 14 10.28 5 6.11 6 6.71 7 7.31 | 58 10.28
8.[=7] 9.38 [+0.46] G Fisichella 3 5.61 3 5.74 17 12.33 19 13.88 | 64 10.98
[9] 9.38 [-0.12] N Rosberg 12 13.33 - - - - - - | - -
10. 9.85 [+0.10] M Webber 7 11.06 8 8.00 13 9.72 11 9.88 |168 19.59
11. 10.15 [-0.27] H Kovalainen - - - - - - - - | - -
12. 12.62 [+0.45] R Schumacher 17 9.94 11 8.61 5 6.00 5 5.93 | 21 7.04
13. 14.62 [+0.45] D Coulthard 13 14.17 16 11.00 10 9.39 9 8.50 | 12 5.13
14. 14.77 [-0.15] A Wurz - - 6 7.00 - - - - | 67 11.31
15.[17] 14.85 [-0.40] J Button 3 7.78 4 5.94 3 5.50 13 11.33 | 93 13.02
16. 14.92 [-0.25] R Barrichello 6 7.61 13 10.53 2 4.56 1 3.63 | 38 8.42
17.[15] 15.25 [+0.25] S Vettel - - - - - - - - | - -
18. 15.38 [-0.12] A Davidson - - 22 15.00 - - - - |169 20.00
19. 16.46 [+0.21] V Liuzzi 15 15.50 19 13.00 - - - - | - -
20. 16.69 [+0.02] T Sato 20 19.67 14 10.88 8 8.06 16 13.00 |118 15.29
21. 17.70 S Speed 16 16.17 - - - - - - | - -
22. 20.31 [+0.06] A Sutil - - - - - - - - | - -
23.[24] 21.11 C Albers 18 18.0 =24 17.26 - - - - | - -
24.[23] 21.33 [+0.33] S Yamamoto 27 20.86 - - - - - - | - -
25. 22.00 M Winkelhock - - - - - - - - | - -
Averages include all demotions such as engine change penalties. The pre-2003
career reflects the change to single-lap/restricted qualifying format - I
don't propose to update the career figures.
Average Team Starting Position 2007 - after Monza, Qualifying #13
=================================================================
2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP
=================================================================================
1. 2.96 [-0.12] McLaren 7. 13.50 2. 6.61 5. 8.81 4. 7.66 3. 5.62
2. 4.35 [-0.03] Ferrari 1. 1.50 6. 9.37 1. 4.25 1. 3.94 1. 2.35
3. 5.58 [-0.05] BMW-Sauber 6. 10.50 8. 11.95 8. 12.92 8. 12.81 5. 10.97*
4. 9.85 [+0.10] Renault 3. 6.50 1. 4.84 4. 7.47 3. 7.59 4. 9.50
5. 10.77 [+0.23] Toyota 8. 15.50 3. 7.47 7. 11.81 5. 10.09 8. 14.59
6. [7] 12.08 [-0.13] Williams 4. 9.50 5. 9.32 2. 6.39 2. 5.03 2. 3.21
7. [6] 12.23 [+0.27] Red Bull 5. 10.50 7. 11.24 6. 11.69 7. 11.84 9. 15.79*
8. 14.88 [-0.33] Honda 2. 4.50 4. 8.53 3. 6.78 6. 11.48 6. 12.71*
9. 16.04 [-0.04] S Aguri 11. 20.50 - - - - - - - -
10. 17.12 [+0.04] T Rosso 9. 15.50 10. 17.50 10. 18.53 10. 18.66 11. 20.32*
11. 20.77 [+0.06] Spyker 10. 18.50 9. 16.97 9. 16.36 9. 15.53 7. 13.33*
* Red Bull = Jaguar (2002-04), Honda = BAR (2002-05), BMW-Sauber = Sauber (2002-05),
Spyker = Midland (2006) = Jordan (2002-05), Toro Rosso = Minardi (2002-05)
Team-mates Head-to-Head 2007 - after Monza, Qualifying #13
==========================================================
Team Driver-1 Driver-2 Posn.
=================================================
Williams Rosberg 12-1 Wurz +69
Red Bull Webber 12-1 Coulthard +62
Toyota Trulli 11-2 Schumacher +48
Spyker Sutil 7-2 Albers +8
Sutil 1-0 Winkelhock +1
Sutil 3-0 Yamamoto +3
[ 11-2 +12]
Super Aguri Davidson 9-4 Sato +17
BMW-Sauber Heidfeld 8-4 Kubica +9
Heidfeld 1-0 Vettel +1
[ 9-4 +10]
Toro Rosso Liuzzi 6-4 Speed +13
Liuzzi 2-1 Vettel +4
[ 8-5 +17]
Ferrari Massa 8-5 Räikkönen -11
Renault Kovalainen 8-5 Fisichella -10
McLaren Hamilton 7-6 Alonso +5
Honda Barrichello 7-6 Button -1
Note: "Posn." shows the advantage in qualifying positions to date. A
positive number shows the driver on the left has the advantage and a
negative number the driver on the right.
Appearances in Each Qualifying Session
======================================
Q1 Q2 Q3
==========================
F Alonso 13 13 13* FRA - no time
N Heidfeld 13 13 13
L Hamilton 13 13 13
K Räikkönen 13 13* 12 MON - no time
J Trulli 13 13 12
R Kubica 12 12 12
F Massa 13 13* 11 AUS - no time
G Fisichella 13 13 10
M Webber 13 12 8
N Rosberg 13 12 8
H Kovalainen 13 12 7
R Schumacher 16 8 5
J Button 13 10 2
R Barrichello 13 10 1
D Coulthard 13 9* 1 MON - time deleted; FRA - no time
T Sato 13 5 1
S Vettel 4 2 1
A Davidson 13 8* - ESP - no time
A Wurz 13 8 -
V Liuzzi 13 6* - ESP - no time
S Speed 10* 3 - ESP - no time
A Sutil 13 - -
C Albers 9* - - MON - no time
S Yamamoto 3 - -
M Winkelhock 1 - -
* Set no time in one or more sessions (Massa in Australia 3 laps;
Davidson in Spain 4 laps, Liuzzi in Spain 0 laps, Speed in
Spain 2 laps; Räikkönen in Monaco 3 laps, Albers in Monaco 3 laps,
Alonso in France 1 lap, Coulthard in France 2 laps).
Best Qualifying Performances (Current Drivers)
==============================================
Best in 2007 Best in Best in Best before 2005
Driver Posn.(#) GP(s) 2006 (#) 2005 (#) Posn. (#) First - Last
==============================================================================
F Massa Pole (5) . . . Pole (3) 7th (1) 4th (3) AUT 02 - BRA 04
L Hamilton Pole (4) . . . --- --- ---
K Räikkönen Pole (2) AUS/Eur Pole (3) Pole (5) Pole (3) Eur 03 - GBR 04
F Alonso Pole (2) MON/ITA Pole (6) Pole (6) Pole (3) MAS 03 - HUN 03
N Heidfeld 2nd (1) HUN 3rd (1) Pole (1) 4th (1) AUT 03
G Fisichella 4th (1) MON Pole (1) Pole (1) Pole (1) AUT 98
R Kubica 4th (1) FRA 6th (1) --- ---
N Rosberg 4th (1) HUN 3rd (1) --- ---
R Schumacher 5th (1) HUN 3rd (1) Pole (1) Pole (5) FRA 01 - CDN 04
M Webber 6th (3) . . . 2nd (1) 2nd (1) 2nd (1) MAS 04
H Kovalainen 6th (2) USA/FRA --- --- ---
J Trulli 6th (1) ESP 3rd (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) MON 04 - BEL 04
S Vettel 7th (1) USA --- --- ---
D Coulthard 9th (1) ESP 7th (1) 5th (1) Pole (12) ARG 95 - MON 01
R Barrichello 9th (1) MON 3rd (2) 5th (2) Pole (13) BEL 94 - BRA 04
J Button 10th (2) MON/ITA Pole (1) Pole (1) Pole (1) RSM 04
T Sato 10th (1) AUS 17th (2) 4th (2) 2nd (1) Eur 04
A Wurz 11th (2) BRN/MON --- 7th (1) ???
A Davidson 11th (2) AUS/TUR --- 15th (1) ???
V Liuzzi 12th (2) MON/CDN 12th (2) 11th (1) ---
S Speed 15th (2) FRA/GBR 11th (1) --- ---
A Sutil 19th (2) MON/TUR --- --- ---
C Albers 20th (2) MAS/FRA 14th (1) 13th (1) ---
S Yamamoto 20th (1) TUR
M Winkelhock 22nd (1) Eur
All-Time Top 20 Poles
=====================
1. A Senna 65
2. M Schumacher 50 + 14 in 2003-05 [1] + 4 in 2006 [3]
3. A Prost 34
4. J Clark 33
5. N Mansell 32
6. JM Fangio 29
7. M Häkkinen 26
8. N Lauda 24
N Piquet 24
10. D Hill 20
11. M Andretti 18
12. J Stewart 17
R Arnoux 17
F Alonso 0 + 7 + 2 + 8 in 2006-07 [3]
15. S Moss 16
16. A Ascari 14
R Peterson 14
J Hunt 14
19. J Brabham 13
G Hill 13
J Ickx 13
J Villeneuve 13 + 0 in 2003-04 [1] + 0 in 2005 [2]
JP Montoya 10 + 3 + 0
1. Single lap qualifying (2003-05, except for AUS-MON '05)
2. Two single-lap sessions aggregated (AUS-MON '05 only)
3. Knockout, 3-period, race fuel
The Recent Record of Pole Position Holders at Monza
===================================================
Year Time Driver Chassis Rslt Winner Chassis Grd
===============================================================================
1997 1'22.990 J Alesi Benetton B197 2nd Coulthard McLaren 6th
1998 1'25.298 M Schumacher Ferrari F300 1st
1999 1'22.432 M Häkkinen McLaren MP4/14 DNF Frentzen Jordan 2nd
----
2000 1'23.770 M Schumacher Ferrari F1-2000 1st
2001 1'22.236 JP Montoya Williams FW23 1st
2002 1'20.264 JP Montoya Williams FW24 DNF Barrichello Ferrari 4th
2003 1'20.963 M Schumacher Ferrari F2003-GA 1st
2004 1'20.089 R Barrichello Ferrari F2004 1st
2005 1'21.054 JP Montoya McLaren MP4/20 1st
2006 1'21.584 K Räikkönen McLaren MP4/21 2nd M Schumacher Ferrari 2nd
2007 1'21.997 F Alonso McLaren MP4/22 ???
---- Indicates change in track layout and/or lap length.
Note: 2005 was decided on "single lap" qualifying. Since 2006 the grid has been
decided on a three-period knockout system. The "pole time" is no longer
necessarily the fastest time set during qualifying.
There have been 56 Grands Prix at Monza,
15 have been won from pole position (last was Montoya in 2005),
10 have been won from second (Schumacher in 2006),
11 have been won from third (Schumacher in 1996),
seven have been won from fourth (Barrichello in 2002),
only one from fifth (Prost in 1985),
and five from sixth (Coulthard in 1997).
Just six have been won from a lower grid position - Surtees (1967/9th), Hulme
(1968/7th), Gethin (1971/11th), Peterson (1974/7th & 1976/8th), and Herbert
(1996/8th).
Average grid position of winners = 3.268.
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Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
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From: "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?F1_GP_W=B3och?=
Niestety, wypada napisać - "jak zwykle". Jak zwykle coś nie zagrało w boksie
BMW. Za karę proponuję wykonanie 100 zmian serwisowych dla poprawy jakości
pracy mechaników.
MN
From: Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp.pl>
Subject: Re: F1 GP =?iso-8859-2?Q?W=B3och?=
Marcin Narzynski napisał:
> Niestety, wypada napisać - "jak zwykle". Jak zwykle coś nie zagrało w boksie
> BMW. Za karę proponuję wykonanie 100 zmian serwisowych dla poprawy jakości
> pracy mechaników.
+ dzięki temu ładne wyprzedzanie Rosberga przez Kubicę
+ świetna jazda Alonso
+ piękny manewr Hamiltona
Dzięki strategii Ferrari wyścig był ciekawy prawie do samego końca.
Szkoda, że Kimi zaspał - Alonso miałby tylko 1 punkt straty :)
m.
--
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Matrix 2: There is no lipstick
Matrix 3: There is no point (Dorota Guttfeld)
From: Budzik <budzik61 poczta.o.n.e.t.pl.nie.spam.oj>
Subject: Re: F1 GP =?iso-8859-2?Q?W=B3och?=
Osobnik posiadający mail mikmach wp.pl napisał(a) w poprzednim odcinku co następuje:
> + dzięki temu ładne wyprzedzanie Rosberga przez Kubicę
w innym wypadku moze byłoby ładne wyprzedzanie Heidfelda :)))
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Cytaty znanych ludzi tylko w ustach znanych ludzi są pouczajace.
Andrzej J. Turowicz
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: [Very Delayed] Overtaking Statistics #12 - Istanbul Park
Apologies for being so late.
Note that I won't be able to post any statistics for Belgium until later.
Introduction for New Readers
============================
2007 is the tenth season that I have posted these amateur overtaking
analyses. My intention was to allow easier comparisons between Grands
Prix, seasons, circuits, drivers, etc.
In order to make any meaningful and/or useful observations it is essential
to produce the stats in as consistent a way as possible. To do this I have
devised several "rules" that I try to follow for each event. Please note
before posting to complain that I missed an obvious passing manoeuvre that
it has probably been excluded because of one of my "rules". The rules are
outlined in the "Disclaimer" below - please read it.
This analysis was mainly derived from the official FIA lap chart, which is
usually available from www.fia.com, http://forix.autosport.com or
www.autosport.com/f1/ on race day or the following day. The original charts
remain copyright of the FIA.
Other excellent Formula One websites are available. This analysis is
completely and totally unofficial.
Disclaimer
==========
For the purposes of this analysis, I only count what I will term "genuine"
passing manoeuvres, which means that I always exclude:
a) any place changes made during pit stops
b) all lapping or unlapping manoeuvres
c) any place changes made during the first lap
Hopefully, a) & b) are obvious. c) is because although lap one is often the
best opportunity to make up places, it is also not typical of the rest of
the race, and so, for the purpose of comparing races with other races and
seasons with other seasons, it is simpler to exclude lap one completely. I
do summarise the changes on lap one later in the post.
For the purposes of this analysis a "pit stop" encompasses the slowing down
lap and the out lap, since any passes during those laps MIGHT be due to the
driver slowing down or speeding up.
Passes are not counted in these stats UNLESS the gained position is held
until the start/finish line is next crossed and so gets recorded onto the
lap chart. I try to ignore anything that isn't recorded in the lap chart,
even if it was seen on TV.
These are the passes I read for the 2007 Turkish GP:
Lap Place Passer (Passed)
==================================================
2 19 Button (Yamamoto)
2 18 Button (Sutil)
2 20 Trulli (Yamamoto)
3 12 Fisichella (Liuzzi)
3 17 Button (Vettel)
3 19 Trulli (Sutil)
3 18 Trulli (Vettel)
6 17 Trulli (Button)
11 16 Button (Trulli)
16 15 Button (Barrichello) [team-mates]
18 14 Button (Schumacher)
21 12 Button (Coulthard)
29 14 Button (Davidson)
20 13 Button (Liuzzi)
49 16 Trulli (Barrichello)
That's 15 passes in total, compared to 25 last season.
Most: 9 Button (5 Trulli)
The Last 10 Seasons
===================
For reasons of space I have removed the data for 1997 from this table. In
1997 there were 318 passes in 16 races, a race average of 20.
Grand Prix 2007 '06 '05 '04 '03 '02 '01 '00 '99 '98 Total Avg.
=============================================================================
1. Australia 11 23 5 9 38 19 18 13 41 7 184 18.4
2. Malaysia 12 16 7 20 16 27 47 31 11 -- 187 20.8
3. Bahrain 20 39 14 15 -- -- -- -- -- -- 88 22.0
4. Spain 5 7 3 7 19 10 10 4 4 12 81 8.1
5. Monaco 2 19 10 5 0 9 6 2 5 4 62 6.2
6. Canada 21 9 12 19 8 15 13 14 14 10 135 13.5
7. USA 14 5 0 16 36 21 21 51 - - 164 20.5
8. France 6 5 5 14 12 3 8 17 43 17 130 13.0
9. Britain 16 6 8 11 49 47 7 8 13 44 209 20.9
10. Europe/LUX 18 13 24 11 8 27 7 28 33 6 175 17.5
11. Hungary 5 32 12 6 25 1 5 10 7 11 114 11.4
12. Turkey 15 25 30 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 70 23.3
13. Italy -- 12 14 38 5 20 19 18 14 28 168 18.7
14. Belgium -- -- 28 22 -- 5 8 16 15 11 105 15.0
15. Japan -- 13 12 21 20 2 17 8 4 19 116 12.9
16. China -- 51 20 17 -- -- -- -- -- -- 88 29.3
17. Brazil -- 18 6 41 48 30 26 22 27 13 231 25.7
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Argentina -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 11 11 11.0
-- Austria -- -- -- -- 20 18 17 20 30 29 134 22.3
-- Germany -- 21 9 29 14 25 15 42 16 10 181 20.1
-- San Marino -- 4 7 6 4 6 13 7 11 8 66 7.3
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Totals 145 318 226 307 322 285 257 311 288 240 2699 16.2
No. GP 12 18 19 18 16 17 17 17 16 16 166
Race Avg. 12 18 12 17 20 17 15 18 18 15 16
Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP [LUX] was held at the Nürburgring, and is
considered as equivalent to the European GP (1999-2007).
Top 30 Races for Overtaking (1997-2007)
=======================================
# Year GP Wet SC
===========================================
1. 51 1997 - Belgium Wet SC (1)
51 2000 - USA Wet
51 2006 - China Wet
4. 49 2003 - Britain SC (2)
5. 48 2003 - Brazil Wet SC (4) Race stopped
6. 47 1999 - Australia SC (2)
47 2001 - Malaysia Wet SC (1)
47 2002 - Britain Showers
9. 44 1998 - Britain Wet SC (1)
10. 43 1999 - France Wet SC (1)
11. 42 2000 - Germany Wet SC (2)
12. 41 2004 - Brazil Wet track
13. 39 1997 - Argentine SC (1)
39 2006 - Bahrain
15. 38 2003 - Australia SC (2)
38 2004 - Italy
17. 36 1997 - Spain
36 2003 - USA Wet
19. 33 1999 - Europe Wet
20. 32 1997 - Brazil
32 2006 - Hungary Wet SC (1)
22. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
25. 29 1997 - Monaco Wet
29 2004 - Germany
29 1998 - Austria SC (1)
28. 28 2000 - Europe Wet
28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium
Dry Races (Not wet & no Safety Car)
===================================
1. 39 2006 - Bahrain
2. 38 2004 - Italy
3. 36 1997 - Spain
4. 32 1997 - Brazil
5. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
8. 29 2004 - Germany
9. 28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium
12. 27 1999 - Brazil
27 2002 - Malaysia
27 2002 - Europe
15. 25 2002 - Germany
25 2003 - Hungary
17. 24 2005 - Europe
18. 22 2000 - Brazil
19. 21 2001 - USA
21 2002 - USA
21 2004 - Japan
21 1997 - Austria
21 2006 - Germany
Drivers' Season Total
=====================
AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR
=================================================================
15 Massa 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 9 0 0 0
12 Alonso 0 0 0 0 0 5 1 3 0 1 2 0
12 Trulli 1 0 2 1 1 0 0 - 0 1 1 5
12 Fisichella 0 0 1 0 0 0 7 0 1 2 0 1
11 Coulthard 1 0 8 0 0 1 - 0 0 1 0 0
10 Button 0 0 - 0 0 - 1 0 0 0 0 9
8 Sato 0 1 0 0 1 4 1 1 0 0 0 0
8 Wurz 0 5 1 - 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0
7 Rosberg 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0
6 Heidfeld 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
6 Kovalainen 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 - 1 0 0
6 Barrichello 1 2 1 0 0 1 - 0 0 0 1 0
5 Schumacher 0 1 1 - 0 1 1 0 0 2 0 0
5 Webber 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0
5 Davidson 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 - 0 1 0 0
5 Hamilton 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0
3 Räikkönen 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
3 Sutil 1 - 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
2 Liuzzi 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 - 0 0 0 0
2 Kubica 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 1 0 0
1 Albers 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 - - -
1 Vettel - - - - - - 0 - - - 1 0
0 Speed 0 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - -
0 Winkelhock - - - - - - - - - 0 - -
0 Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - - 0 0
----------------------------------------------------------------
145 11 12 20 5 2 21 14 6 16 18 5 15
No. of Times Overtaken
======================
AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR
=================================================================
13 Barrichello 0 0 4 0 0 1 - 0 1 5 0 2
12 Trulli 0 0 1 0 1 4 1 - 3 1 0 1
10 Albers 0 0 1 1 0 4 3 1 0 - - -
10 Speed 1 2 - 0 0 0 3 2 2 0 - -
10 Wurz 2 0 1 - 0 2 1 0 3 1 0 0
10 Button 2 3 - 0 0 - 2 0 1 0 1 1
8 Kovalainen 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0
8 Fisichella 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 0
8 Liuzzi 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 - 1 0 1 2
8 Davidson 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 - 1 0 0 1
7 Schumacher 1 2 1 - 0 2 - 0 0 0 0 1
6 Sutil 0 - 0 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2
6 Coulthard 1 1 0 0 0 1 - 0 1 1 0 1
4 Rosberg 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0
4 Sato 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
3 Alonso 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 Webber 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
3 Massa 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
2 Heidfeld 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
2 Winkelhock - - - - - - - - - 2 - -
2 Kubica 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 0 1 1 0
2 Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - - 0 2
2 Vettel - - - - - - 0 - - - 0 2
1 Räikkönen 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 Hamilton 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
----------------------------------------------------------------
145 11 12 20 5 2 21 6 6 16 18 5 15
Gains/Losses on Lap One
=======================
Plus 5: Barrichello
Plus 3: Coulthard
Plus 2: Wurz, Liuzzi
Plus 1: Räikkönen, Kubica, Heidfeld, Webber
No change: Massa, Kovalainen, Rosberg, Schumacher, Vettel, Sutil, Yamamoto,
Button
Minus 1: Hamilton
Minus 2: Alonso
Minus 4: Fisichella, Davidson
Minus 6: Sato
Notes: Trulli was nudged into a spin by Fisichella at Turn 1, losing 12 places.
This is ignored in the stats above and below.
Gains/Losses on Lap One in 2007
===============================
Driver Total (ASP) AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR Eur HUN TUR
=======================================================================
Speed +16 (17.7) -1 +3 - +7 +4 -1 +2 0 +2 - - -
Kovalainen +10 (10.4) +1 +1 +3 -1 -1 +3 +1 - +1 - +2 0
Coulthard +9 (14.2) +1 +1 +4 +1 -2 0 - +1 0 - 0 +3
Heidfeld +6 (5.2) +1 0 0 0 +2 +1 +1 0 +1 - -1 +1
Wurz +5 (14.9) -1 +1 0 - +1 +3 +1 +1 -1 0 -2 +2
Fisichella +4 (8.9) 0 +4 0 -3 0 +2 +2 0 +1 0 +2 -4
Barrichello +4 (15.2) +1 +1 -1 +1 +2 0 - +1 -3 - -3 +5
Hamilton +3 (2.8) +1 +2 0 +2 0 0 0 -1 0 - 0 -1
Sutil +3 (20.2) -3 - - +2 -1 -1 +4 +1 0 - +1 0
Rosberg +2 (9.5) 0 -1 -3 +1 -1 +2 +2 0 +2 - 0 0
Kubica +2 (5.9) 0 +1 0 0 -1 0 - 0 0 0 +1 +1
Liuzzi +2 (16.2) -1 -1 0 0 -1 0 +4 - 0 - -1 +2
Albers +1 (21.1) 0 -1 0 0 +1 -1 +1 +1 0 - - -
Räikkönen +1 (3.8) 0 -1 -1 0 +4 -2 -2 +1 0 0 +1 +1
Webber +1 (9.8) 0 -1 0 +2 -2 -3 0 +1 +1 - +2 +1
Sato 0 (16.7) 0 -5 +2 -1 +4 +1 -1 +2 0 - +4 -6
Massa 0 (4.9) +3 -2 0 0 0 +1 0 0 - - -2 0
Winkelhock 0 (22.0) - - - - - - - - - 0 - -
Yamamoto 0 (21.0) - - - - - - - - - - 0 0
Vettel -2 (15.0) - - - - - - -4 - - - +2 0
Alonso -7 (3.3) -2 +1 +1 -2 0 -1 0 0 0 - -2 -2
Button -7 (15.2) 0 -1 - +2 -1 - -6 +1 0 - -2 0
Trulli -9 (8.9) -1 -1 -1 +4 -5 -1 +1 - -1 0 -4 -
Davidson -11 (15.5) - +3 +1 -4 -2 -1 -6 - 0 - +2 -4
Schumacher -16 (12.2) +1 -4 -4 - -2 -2 - -2 -3 - 0 0
Note: The number in brackets (ASP) is the average starting position in 2007
(grid position after any penalties have been applied). Obviously, a driver
who frequently starts from pole position has very little chance to gain
places while one who usually starts at the back of the grid has a good
chance of gaining places.
Most Passes 1998-2007
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Using the data from my statistics these are all drivers who have achieved
50 or more passes.
192 R Barrichello *
154 M Schumacher
146 R Schumacher *
144 D Coulthard *
119 J Button *
115 G Fisichella *
108 J Villeneuve
103 O Panis
96 J Trulli *
95 JP Montoya
89 J Alesi
89 F Massa *
79 K Räikkönen *
74 F Alonso *
73 H-H Frentzen
71 T Sato *
69 N Heidfeld *
69 M Webber *
67 E Irvine
54 J Verstappen
50 M Salo
One other driver who didn't quite make the cut - Mika Häkkinen (49).
It's not unusual for me to make an occasional mistake or to omit something in
the above. I do, of course, take full responsibility for any errors. I would
be grateful to anyone for pointing them out, and will incorporate any
corrections in later posts.
--
Brian Lawrence
Wantage, Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com
From: "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com>
Subject: Re: Overtaking Statistics #13 - Monza
"Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence msn.com> wrote:
> Lap Place Passer (Passed)
> ==================================================
> 8 8 Button (Rosberg)
> 8 14 Davidson (Fisichella)
> 8 18 Yamamoto (Sutil) [team-mates]
> 9 18 Sutil (Yamamoto) [team-mates]
> 12 18 Sato (Yamamoto)
> 15 11 Trulli (Wurz)
> 21 7 Rosberg (Button)
> 26 13 Fisichella (Davidson)
43 2 Hamilton (Räikkönen) How could I miss that one!
46 5 Kubica (Rosberg)
> That's 10 passes in total, compared to 12 last season.
>
> Most: 1 ten drivers
--
Brian
From: "santee" <santee ducksaredumb.com>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_F1_GP_W=B3och?=
Użytkownik "Marcin Narzynski" <narzynka.usun tez_usun.onet.pl> napisał w
wiadomości news:fc0u3s$rek$1 achot.icm.edu.pl...
Tu widac, jak Hamilton zlamal kolo Massy
http://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=5792786445421387672&q=Monza&total=333&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=3